On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Xuxiaohu wrote:

> 
> 
>> -----邮件原件-----
>> 发件人: Stefano Previdi (sprevidi) [mailto:[email protected]]
>> 发送时间: 2014年1月27日 17:54
>> 收件人: Xuxiaohu
>> 抄送: Peter Psenak (ppsenak); [email protected]; [email protected]
>> 主题: Re: [OSPF] New Version Notification for
>> draft-xu-ospf-global-label-sid-adv-00.txt
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Xuxiaohu wrote:
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>>> -----邮件原件-----
>>>> 发件人: Peter Psenak [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> 发送时间: 2014年1月27日 16:41
>>>> 收件人: Xuxiaohu
>>>> 抄送: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>> 主题: Re: [OSPF] fwd: New Version Notification for
>>>> draft-xu-ospf-global-label-sid-adv-00.txt
>>>> 
>>>> Xiaohu,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1. draft-psenak-ospf-segment-routing-extensions has already defined
>>>> the mapping server functionality - please read the section 4.2 and
>>>> 6.1
>>> 
>>> According to the description about mapping servers (see below) which is in 
>>> -01
>> version of the use case draft but is removed in -02 version of that draft, 
>> it seems
>> that the mapping server is deemed to advertise the mappings on behalf of
>> non-SR-capable routers.
>> 
>> 
>> As it is defined now, there is nothing that prevents the MS to be used for
>> mapping SIDs/labels to indistinctly SR and non-SR routers.
> 
> Hi,
> 
>   "Segment Routing requires each router to advertise its SR data-plane
>   capability and the range of SID/Label values it uses for Segment
>   Routing. Data-plane capabilities and SID/Label ranges are advertised
>   using the newly defined SR-Capabilities Sub-TLV inserted into the
>   IS-IS Router Capability TLV-242 that is defined in [RFC4971]. " -quoted 
> from your ISIS extension for SR draft.
> 
> I understand that the MS could be used to advertise indexes on behalf of SR 
> routers. However, I wonder whether the MS could also be used to advertise the 
> SID/label range on behalf of SR routers according to the above specification.


it can. Maybe we can add some more words.

s.


> 
> Best regards,
> Xiaohu
> 
>> s.
>> 
>> 
>>> In contrast, my draft proposes to allow the mapping server to allocate and
>> advertise mappings on behalf of SR-capable routers. Those two distinct design
>> goals cause different implications on the implementation and usage.
>>> 
>>>  "The mappings advertised by an SR mapping server result from local
>>>  policy information configured by the operator.  IF PE3 had been SR
>>>  capable, the operator would have configured PE3 with node segment
>>>  103.  Instead, as PE3 is not SR capable, the operator configures that
>>>  policy at the SRMS and it is the latter which advertises the
>> mapping."---quoted from -01 version of the use case draft.
>>> 
>>>> 2. TLVs that you defined in section 3 and 4 are very close to those
>>>> defined in draft-psenak-ospf-segment-routing-extensions and have the
>>>> exact same functionality as the ones defined in
>>>> draft-psenak-ospf-segment-routing-extensions
>>> 
>>> If I understand your draft correctly, the prefix SID sub-TLV defined in your
>> draft is intended to advertise index, rather than SID or global label. In 
>> contrast,
>> the Label Binding Sub-TLV and SID Binding Sub-TLV defined in my draft are
>> intended to advertise global labels and SIDs respectively. Besides, the Label
>> Binding Sub-TLV and SID Binding sub-TLV are just intended for label or SID
>> distribution without any correlation with the algorithm and MT-ID, which is
>> different from the prefix SID sub-TLV, IMHO.
>>> 
>>>> 3. The only new sub-TLV you defined is Label Request Sub-TLV.
>>>> 
>>>> First, given that we already have OSPF SR draft, you should have
>>>> defined this as a sub-TLV of the OSPF Extended Prefix TLV that is
>>>> defined in draft-psenak-ospf-segment-routing-extensions.
>>> 
>>>> Second, you proposed to use Opaque LSA that is flooded either area or
>>>> domain wide as a request mechanism between the router and mapping
>>>> server. This means that all routers in an area/domain would have to
>>>> store and maintain such 'request' LSAs, even though they would never
>>>> use them locally. I seriously question if flooding of the LSA is the right
>> mechanism to achieve what you want.
>>> 
>>> Agree that it may not be attractive in the OSPF case. However, this choice 
>>> may
>> be attractive in the IS-IS case since the label/SID request information can 
>> be
>> carried in the IP reachability advertisement. Anyway, as said in the draft, 
>> the
>> advertisement of label/SID request is just one option.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Xiaohu
>>> 
>>>> regards,
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/27/14 04:34 , Xuxiaohu wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any comments are welcome.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Xiaohu
>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----邮件原件-----
>>>>>> 发件人: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> 发送时间: 2014年1月21日 13:53
>>>>>> 收件人: Mach Chen; Mach Chen; Xuxiaohu; Xuxiaohu
>>>>>> 主题: New Version Notification for
>>>>>> draft-xu-ospf-global-label-sid-adv-00.txt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A new version of I-D, draft-xu-ospf-global-label-sid-adv-00.txt
>>>>>> has been successfully submitted by Xiaohu Xu and posted to the IETF
>>>> repository.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Name:            draft-xu-ospf-global-label-sid-adv
>>>>>> Revision:        00
>>>>>> Title:           Advertising Global Labels or SIDs Using OSPF
>>>>>> Document date:   2014-01-21
>>>>>> Group:           Individual Submission
>>>>>> Pages:           7
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-xu-ospf-global-label-sid-
>>>>>> ad
>>>>>> v-00.txt
>>>>>> Status:
>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xu-ospf-global-label-sid-adv
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> Htmlized:
>>>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-ospf-global-label-sid-adv-00
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>>>   Segment Routing (SR) is a new MPLS paradigm in which each
>>>> SR-capable
>>>>>>   router is required to advertise global MPLS labels or Segment IDs
>>>>>>   (SID) for its attached prefixes by using link-state IGPs, e.g., OSPF.
>>>>>>   One major challenge associated with such global MPLS label or SID
>>>>>>   advertisement mechanism is how to avoid a given global MPLS label or
>>>>>>   SID from being allocated by different routers to different prefixes.
>>>>>>   Although such global label or SID allocation collision problem can be
>>>>>>   addressed through manual allocation , it is error-prone and
>>>>>>   nonautomatic therefore may not be suitable in large-scale SR network
>>>>>>   environments.  This document proposes an alternative approach for
>>>>>>   allocating and advertising global MPLS labels or SIDs via OSPF so as
>>>>>>   to eliminate the potential risk of label allocation collision.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> tools.ietf.org.
>>>>>> 
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