Shraddha,

Do you see deployments today where there are configured RSVP-TE FRR paths, but 
there are loose routed LSPs that request no FRR protection?

Such a datapoint would be interesting to figure out whether we currently have 
demand for this approach — but clearly this would not necessarily say anything 
about future requirements.

Cheers,
r.

> On 29 Dec 2014, at 10:12, Shraddha Hegde <shrad...@juniper.net> wrote:
> 
> Rob/Peter,
> 
> 
> I think today there are networks which run only on SPF paths and having a 
> facility of "unprotected node-sid" is useful in my opinion 
> Rather than not providing such a facility in the protocol at all.
> 
> I agree that if there is no sufficient interest on the list it can be 
> dropped. 
> I hope we can wait until the holiday season to get over to hear others 
> opinion on this.
> 
> Rgds
> Shraddha
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Shakir [mailto:r...@rob.sh] 
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:11 PM
> To: Shraddha Hegde
> Cc: Peter Psenak; draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensi...@tools.ietf.org; 
> draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensi...@tools.ietf.org; ospf@ietf.org; 
> isis...@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Isis-wg] Mail regarding 
> draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions
> 
> 
>> On 29 Dec 2014, at 09:33, Shraddha Hegde <shrad...@juniper.net> wrote:
>> 
>> <Shraddha> It is likely that some application wants to use the node-sids 
>> when the strict path for performance sensitive traffic matches with that of 
>> the SPF  for some segments or for the entire path. 
>> 
> 
> There is nothing stopping it doing so, but it cannot deterministically say 
> that the path will remain coherent with the one that it expects for multiple 
> reasons:
> 
> 1) Nodes along the path may select a subset of ECMPs, the performance of 
> which may vary.
> 2) There may be topology changes (triggered by failure or not) which mean 
> that the shortest-path may change.
> 
> Given that either of these can result in performance variance, it’s very 
> likely (from a practical standpoint) that the traffic must be able to live 
> with FRRs too - hence it being unclear to me that there’s a requirement for 
> an ‘unprotected’ Node SID.
> 
> r.

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