I agree. Thanks Les for the reference to RFC 5882.

Thanks,
Acee

From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsb...@cisco.com<mailto:ginsb...@cisco.com>>
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 12:29 PM
To: Anil Raj <anilra...@gmail.com<mailto:anilra...@gmail.com>>
Cc: Acee Lindem <a...@cisco.com<mailto:a...@cisco.com>>, OSPF WG List 
<ospf@ietf.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org>>
Subject: RE: [OSPF] OSPF GR and BFD operability

Anil –

IF BFD does NOT share fate w the Control plane then what you say is true.

If BFD shares fate w the control plane then the behavior depends on the 
neighbor knowing that a restart is in progress. If neighbor knows this then the 
BFD down event can be ignored w minimal risk – otherwise you need to treat it 
as a real failure.

   Les


From: Anil Raj [mailto:anilra...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 8:51 AM
To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Cc: Acee Lindem (acee); OSPF WG List
Subject: Re: [OSPF] OSPF GR and BFD operability

Thanks Acess, Les.

So ideally it is recommended to tear down OSPF adjacency and signal topology 
change, and thus honor BFD notification in this case.

Regards,
Anil

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 
<ginsb...@cisco.com<mailto:ginsb...@cisco.com>> wrote:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5882.txt Section 
4.3<https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5882.txt%20Section%204.3> is relevant 
here.

   Les


From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:ospf-boun...@ietf.org>] On 
Behalf Of Acee Lindem (acee)
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:54 AM
To: Anil Raj; OSPF WG List
Subject: Re: [OSPF] OSPF GR and BFD operability

Hi Anil,

OSPF and OSPFv3 graceful restart pre-dated BFD so this wasn’t explicitly 
covered. However, given that the intension is that the data plane is preserved 
during restart, an implementation could interpret this as a topology change and 
terminate helper mode as documented in section 3.2 of RFC 3623.
Hope this helps,
Acee



From: OSPF <ospf-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:ospf-boun...@ietf.org>> on behalf of 
Anil Raj <anilra...@gmail.com<mailto:anilra...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 10:19 AM
To: OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org>>
Subject: [OSPF] OSPF GR and BFD operability

Hi,

I need clarification on the behavior when BFD notifies remote inactivity for a 
OSPF session, when OSPF neighbor is undergoing Graceful restart? OSPF router in 
helper mode will ideally inactivate the restarting neighbor only after grace 
period, and if BFD notifies neighbor down to OSPF, should the adjacency be 
terminated? If not, will it cause a blackhole for the entire grace period if 
the neighbor is actually down?

Appreciate if you can help here.

Regards,
Anil

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