Speaking as a WG member:

Hi Alvaro, Alia,

If we are going to change this, I would propose we change the allocation policy 
from “Standards Action” to “IETF Review”  as opposed to splitting the range.

Thanks,
Acee

From: Alia Atlas <akat...@gmail.com<mailto:akat...@gmail.com>>
Date: Monday, September 21, 2015 at 5:36 PM
To: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" <aret...@cisco.com<mailto:aret...@cisco.com>>
Cc: OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org>>, 
"draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970...@ietf.org>"
 
<draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970...@ietf.org>>,
 "ospf-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:ospf-cha...@ietf.org>" 
<ospf-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:ospf-cha...@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [OSPF] IANA Considerations in draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis

Alvaro,

Is there a reason not to split up the Unassigned range into Standards Action 
and RFC Required?
Also, are you picking RFC Required over IETF Review [RFC5226]?  The former 
would open up
for Independent Stream RFCs while the latter would not.

Can we get opinions from the WG?  I am expecting to do my AD review of this 
draft and get it
moving - hopefully for the Oct 15 telechat - assuming the document is in the 
fine shape that I
expect from the OSPF WG.

Regards,
Alia

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Alvaro Retana (aretana) 
<aret...@cisco.com<mailto:aret...@cisco.com>> wrote:
[WG Participant Hat On]

Hi!

I know that the WG has asked for publication of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis, but 
I would like to see a change in the IANA Considerations Section before moving 
forward.   Sorry for being so late..

The ID (and rfc4970) define a registry for OSPF RI TLVs.  Currently, the only 
way to get a value assigned is through Standards Action (which requires a 
Standards Track RFC).  There is a range reserved for Experimentation — I 
understand why these values are not to be assigned (rfc3692).

However, there is work that could that could benefit from a less strict 
assignment policy, where the code may be in general deployment, and even 
enabled by default in products — not what rfc3692 had in mind.  In this case I 
am specifically referring to the TTZ work — now that it is on the Experimental 
track, it doesn’t meet the requirement for Standards Action and given the size 
of potential deployments I don’t think it’s practical to just pick a value off 
the range reserved for Experimentation.  I am sure that, if not right now, 
other work will also benefit from a less strict policy.

Proposal:  redefine the Reserved space so that half of it remains Reserved (the 
top half) while the other half uses a different assignment policy.    I’m 
proposing RFC Required (rfc5226) as the assignment policy.

The text in 4970bis already talks about a Standards Track RFC being able to 
change the assignment policy for the Reserved space — as long as we’re doing 
the bis work, we might as well include this change.

Given that the ID is already with the AD, I could make the same comment when 
the IETF Last Call is issued, but I think we may need WG consensus on changing 
the registry — so it might be easier to take care of it now.

Thanks!

Alvaro.

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