Sounds great.

Regarding GPS data, perhaps this is something Mapbox would be interested in 
somehow processing. I think they’ve already worked on using GPS data to adjust 
speed estimates in OSRM for cars. They’re also working on extending OSRM so 
dynamic traffic data can be used to update the routing suggesting in near 
real-time.


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Fra: Bjorn Madsen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sendt: 24. november 2015 16:08
Til: Mailing list to discuss Project OSRM
Emne: Re: [OSRM-talk] Project-OSRM: In need of advice; can offer some 
commercial support to you/ your projects in return

Hi Sander & Emil,
Thanks for the quick responses. The usage of the lua script is particularly 
useful.

I completely respect the limitations of the demo server and can offer to set up 
another server to support the project. 20Tb of traffic should help?

I've been following the discussions on the OSM forum and they've discussed the 
quality of the map to a great extend.
For planning purposes I appreciate that the main source of error is delay in 
updates. To counter that we are planning to use our commercial help-desk to 
collect information from drivers about detours and unrecorded obstacles so that 
OSM can get the updates with less than a days delay. We can also track some 
vehicles, and capture information such as slowdown caused by traffic jams, etc. 
on major roads. Hopefully this can become a valued source of information?

If somebody has a burning interest in accelerating this, then please feel free 
to get in touch for a sponsorship.
That's the least I can do.

Kind regards
Bjorn


On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Sander Deryckere 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,
I'm writing this as an OSM mapper and user of the OSRM api, I'm not an OSRM 
dev, so I might make some mistakes here.

2015-11-24 15:20 GMT+01:00 Bjorn Madsen 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
My name is Bjorn, and I'm the director at a commercial project that needs 
something like the Open Source Routing Machine with Openstreet Map where you 
both appear rather active. You can find a little bit about me on 
linkedin<https://uk.linkedin.com/in/bmadsen> and Multi-Agent 
Technology<http://www.multiagenttechnology.com/> London.

Question: The most pressing question I have is whether OSRM is suitable for 
truck/lorry routing in its current state?

The passability and driving speed of road types is determined by lua scripts 
(see https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/blob/develop/profiles/car.lua 
for the example car script). So you can at least make one script per vehicle 
type (split up your lorries in discrete types, and have a script for every 
type).
Now, OSRM is suited, but I don't know if OSM data is suited. Lorry tagging is 
something not many mappers do (not many mappers need maxweight or maxlength 
properties of a way), so data may be sparse. But this depends a lot on the 
region you're operating in. It's generally known that Europe has better 
coverage than North America, but even in Europe such tagging will depend a lot 
on the region you're in.

I have no need to visualize the map data. Only calculation of the path, length 
and duration of the route for heavy goods vehicles for planning purposes. This 
means that I need to check for constraints such as weight, low bridges and 
width-limitations along the path.

If queries are as quick as on the demo-server for the osrm-project, then time 
is on our side. In my lack insight, I imagine that this can be done in 
iterations, where first a path is chosen for cars, which subsequently is 
inspected for these constraints. If constraints are detected, alternatives will 
need to by discovered. I'm sure you have better ideas?

The demo server is what it is, a demo. If you want truck routing, you'll have 
to install your own server with your own profiles.

I'm also on Google hangout (using this email) if you'd prefer to talk instead 
of writing longer emails.

Thanks again for getting back to me.

As for the return service you propose, if you use the data for truckers, it 
would be great if you could get those truckers to help contribute data to the 
database. In contrast to the average mapper, they will care about maxweight and 
maxlength properties, and will want to correct those where wrong. In turn, this 
also makes your data and your routes better.
It can be achieved by giving the truckers a training on how to add that data to 
OSM, or give them some option to add notes to OSM (in which case these notes 
will have to be interpreted by regular mappers, and mapped).
Regards,
Sander


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