Hi Ken,

Thanks for your input. I currently have this setup pointing the OSSEC
Manager to Splunk. It works great.

Still, having 2 OSSEC Managers, every time you have to update a rule, you
have to do so twice, correct? Did you find a good way around this?


-Michael

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Ken Wachtler <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Michael,
> We view our OSSEC alerts is through a commercial Log Manager. The 
> syslog_output
> channel points to the Log Manager ...
>
>   <syslog_output>
>     <server>10.1.1.1</server>
>   </syslog_output>
>
>
>
> If multiple OSSEC servers were utilized, all pointing to the same Log
> Manager, you could view alerts from all of them their. Of course, this
> pushes the single point of failure to the LM.
>
>  KenW
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Michael Altfield [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2009 5:28 PM
> *To:* ossec-list
> *Subject:* [ossec-list] Re: Agent alert queues to prevent data loss
>
>  bump
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Michael Altfield <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Ken,
>>
>> Thanks for the response.
>>
>> I thought about this solution, but I know from another ossec-list
>> thread (
>> http://groups.google.com/group/ossec-list/browse_thread/thread/a6f65d7ef0e2cd91
>> ) that OSSEC doesn't handle load balancing or (more importantly)
>> centralized logging very well with multiple OSSEC managers.
>>
>> My biggest issue with creating multiple, redundant OSSEC Managers is
>> that my alert logs are now potentially on 2 different servers--making
>> it a pain to troubleshoot an audit trail. For example, If I'm using
>> the OSSEC WUI, I'd now have to check (at least) 2 different WUIs.
>>
>> I did some more googling, and I saw that the OSSEC team apparently
>> thought of this issue, so they created the concept of a *single*,
>> central OSSEC Manager to collect and analyze logs being sent from a
>> collection of other OSSEC Managers (
>> http://www.ossec.net/main/manual/manual-muti-server-architecture
>> ). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that this solution re-creates
>> a single point of failure--destroying the reason to have a multi-
>> server architecture to begin with (redundancy)!
>>
>> So, I guess another question is: Is there any way to have multiple,
>> *redundant* OSSEC Managers that have synced logs, rules, and
>> configurations?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Michael Altfield
>>
>> On Jul 28, 7:45 pm, Ken Wachtler <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Consider listing two OSSEC servers in agent's ossec.conf.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Michael Altfield
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 12:08 PM
>> > To: ossec-list
>> > Subject: [ossec-list] Agent alert queues to prevent data loss
>> >
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I've been playing with OSSEC for several weeks now, and I absolutely
>> > love this product. IMHO, it's by far the best FOSS HIDS on the market
>> > with a wonderful user and developer community.
>> >
>> > I'd like to utilize OSSEC in our corporate production environment, but
>> > the biggest problem I've found with it is that the agents don't appear
>> > to queue their alerts in memory. The issue being: if the OSSEC server
>> > is down or there is a temporary network issue, the alerts produced by
>> > the agent will be lost. This functionality would be unacceptable to
>> > most compliance standards (namely the PCI DSS).
>> >
>> > Is there any way to ensure that all alerts sent from OSSEC hosts to
>> > the OSSEC server are successfully received by the OSSEC server--and to
>> > hold onto those alerts that were not received successfully for re-
>> > sending?
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Michael Altfield
>>
>
>

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