Reading through that again, that was pretty confusing...!! BTW: I meant to
say "attackers.log" in scenario A) where I am saying "On ORANGE, I have
confirmed that I am watching..."


I think this issue might have already been noticed by someone else:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg07135.html


I think the interim solutions will be to ship the logs to another agent w/
the OSSEC agent and do it that way. Or I can just go with scenario B. My
concern is that I don't want to add load to the server as we've had issues
with OSSEC on this box before.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Jeremy Lee <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've done some more testing. I think there is an issue with the way AR
> recognizes the source of the alert.
>
>
> I can successfully get <location>defined-agent</location> to work perfectly
> if the OSSEC agent is analyzing a remote log.
>
> By way of an example, let's call it "attackers.log." And let's say I have
> an OSSEC server, named "orange" and two agents, named "apple" and "banana"
> (AR is configured for all relevant locations). Forgive me for my lack of
> creativity in naming conventions btw :)
>
> I'll give two scenarios, the first of which is unsuccessful:
> A) APPLE utilizes `logger` to ship certain log snippets to ORANGE. The logs
> are subsequently written to "attackers.log" which resides on ORANGE in some
> directory. On ORANGE, I have confirmed that I am watching "alerts.log" as a
> localfile (confirmed by seeing the alert in the OSSEC alert.log). However,
> despite the alerts showing up, AR is not triggered on BANANA.
>
> Now scenario that *does* work.
> B) APPLE writes logs to a certain [local] location, which the OSSEC agent
> is monitoring. ORANGE, of course, receives the alert and this is recorded in
> the OSSEC alert.log file. I can confirm that the AR is triggered on BANANA
>
>
> Sorry, hopefully that wasn't TOO confusing or hard to follow. In short: AR
> seems to be having problems properly triggering based on local logs on the
> OSSEC server. If the OSSEC agent is monitoring and sending alerts from other
> agents, AR (at least the defined-agent flag) seems to work fine.
>
>
> Is this a potential bug? Or am I missing another config parameter somehow?
>
>
> TIA!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:23 AM, dan (ddp) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It hasn't fired, but I don't know if the proper bad-ness has happened
>> to set it off.
>> I'm hoping to be able to test it better tonight or tomorrow.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:10 PM, jplee3 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hey Dan,
>> >
>> > So did the AR work with defined-agent?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Jeremy
>> >
>> > On Feb 8, 1:27 pm, "dan (ddp)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> I've switched one of my ARs to use defined-agent. I'll let you know
>> >> tomorrow if it works.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:24 PM, jplee3 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Is anyone else having issues with getting AR to work when <location>
>> >> > is set to "defined-agent" and the log alerts/analysis is on the OSSEC
>> >> > server itself?
>> >>
>> >> > On Feb 7, 12:00 pm, Jeremy Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> Actually, <location>local</location> does work (in addition to
>> 'server') -
>> >> >> thinking about it, this makes sense because what I'm doing is I'm
>> forwarding
>> >> >> a log (using logger) and writing it to a log file on the syslog
>> server
>> >> >> (which is also the OSSEC server). I'm having OSSEC analyze that log
>> file
>> >> >> locally. So "local" wouldn't make sense anyway. In any case, it does
>> work as
>> >> >> expected. BUT, the <location>defined-agent</location> still has
>> issues. I've
>> >> >> tried 2-3 defined agents thus far and cannot get AR to kick off on
>> any of
>> >> >> them.
>> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Jeremy Lee <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> > I tried going simple and tested AR on the server first. That
>> worked. I then
>> >> >> > tried AR on the local agent (as well as a defined-agent) and
>> that's where it
>> >> >> > failed. I turned debug on in internal_options.conf but couldn't
>> find
>> >> >> > anything useful. Is there any other debugging I can turn on? I'll
>> give it a
>> >> >> > shot again today to see if anything comes of it.
>> >>
>> >> >> > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:44 AM, dan (ddp) <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >> Start simple. Only have 1 ar configuration on the server to start
>> with
>> >> >> >> (you have 1 for agent 108 and 1 for 109, remove until you have 1
>> for 1
>> >> >> >> agent).
>> >> >> >> Also run the agent processes in debug mode, see if there are any
>> >> >> >> useful log messages.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Jeremy Lee <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > ossec-execd is running on the agents.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> > The strangest part of all this is that I can successfully issue
>> >> >> >> > `agent-control -u...` and get the null-route command to work
>> manually.
>> >> >> >> But
>> >> >> >> > for some reason it won't work the normal way, even though the
>> relevant
>> >> >> >> rule
>> >> >> >> > ID is getting triggered.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:33 AM, dan (ddp) <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:15 PM, jplee3 <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > I also tried with <location>all</location> and it did not
>> work.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Something I did notice: on the OSSEC server the
>> "/var/ossec/queue/
>> >> >> >> >> > alerts/ar" file exists while on the agents I'm trying to get
>> this to
>> >> >> >> >> > work on, that file does not exist. Is this the cause of the
>> problem?
>> >> >> >> >> > If so, what would have caused the ar file to go away? And
>> how can I
>> >> >> >> >> > get it back?
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> That file does not exist on my agents:
>> >> >> >> >> [ddp@junction] :; sudo -s
>> >> >> >> >> # ls -l /var/ossec/queue/alerts/
>> >> >> >> >> total 0
>> >> >> >> >> srw-rw----  1 root  ossec  0 Jan 26 22:26 execq
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Is ossec-execd running on the agents? Does it work on any
>> agents?
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > On Feb 4, 3:02 pm, jplee3 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> Hey guys,
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I'm not exactly sure what happened but it seems my Active
>> Response
>> >> >> >> >> >> stopped working. I've verified the rule behind the AR gets
>> triggered
>> >> >> >> >> >> and I also manually tested the rule via the agent_control
>> command.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Here's the configs/logs:
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> ossec.conf:
>> >> >> >> >> >>   <command>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <name>route-null</name>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <executable>route-null.sh</executable>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <expect>srcip</expect>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <timeout_allowed>yes</timeout_allowed>
>> >> >> >> >> >>   </command>
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>   <active-response>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <command>route-null</command>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <location>defined-agent</location>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <agent_id>108</agent_id>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <rules_id>300042</rules_id>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <timeout>1800</timeout>
>> >> >> >> >> >>   </active-response>
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>   <active-response>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <command>route-null</command>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <location>defined-agent</location>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <agent_id>109</agent_id>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <rules_id>300042</rules_id>
>> >> >> >> >> >>     <timeout>1800</timeout>
>> >> >> >> >> >>   </active-response>
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> alert.log (sanitized):
>> >> >> >> >> >> ** Alert 1296859856.1087142244: mail  - local,syslog,
>> >> >> >> >> >> 2011 Feb 04 14:50:56 lxapp5->/nas/logs/attack/attack.log
>> >> >> >> >> >> Rule: 300042 (level 8) -> 'Multiple scripted attack'
>> >> >> >> >> >> Src IP: 192.168.1.45
>> >> >> >> >> >> User: user2
>> >> >> >> >> >> [blah blah blah blah blah 192.168.45 blah blah blah user2]
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> So the alert is definitely being triggered here...
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> To test that AR is functional:
>> >> >> >> >> >> server:
>> >> >> >> >> >> /var/ossec/bin/agent_control -u 109 -b 1.2.3.4 -f
>> route-null1800
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> OSSEC HIDS agent_control: Running active response
>> 'route-null1800'
>> >> >> >> on:
>> >> >> >> >> >> 109
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> agent (active-responses.log):
>> >> >> >> >> >> Fri Feb  4 14:58:29 PST 2011
>> /var/ossec/active-response/bin/route-
>> >> >> >> >> >> null.sh add - 1.2.3.4 (from_the_server) (no_rule_id)
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> So for some reason it seems OSSEC is not paying attention
>> to the
>> >> >> >> >> >> portion of the conf regarding active responses... it might
>> just be a
>> >> >> >> >> >> dumb typo but is there anyway to debug further to find the
>> root
>> >> >> >> cause?
>> >> >> >> >> >> Or does anyone see anything wrong with the snippet of the
>> conf? I
>> >> >> >> also
>> >> >> >> >> >> tried removing "<disabled>no</disabled" to no avail. I have
>> made no
>> >> >> >> >> >> changes to the route-null.sh AR script either. This was all
>> working
>> >> >> >> >> >> previously and I had to stop it due to issues back in
>> January. I
>> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> >> >> got back to playing around with this again and it's not
>> working.
>> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Any ideas?
>>
>
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