I think people forget that when you put OSSEC on a server, it really does 
not make sense to run a syslog-type daemon sending data to a central log 
host at the same time OSSEC is doing it. Wastes bandwidth and since OSSEC 
can actually deliver more than just standard "syslogs" - it is much more 
useful. For example, syslog is not typically going to centralize your HTTPD 
logging and OSSEC can. It makes sense to add a little more flexibility in 
the output of the logall feature..



On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:06:31 AM UTC-7, James M. Pulver wrote:
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>  Maybe I’m crazy, but I think OSSEC is like a log daemon +…
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> It’s cross platform, it includes encryption, it has built in filtering and 
> can do active response. Why would it make sense to duplicate log shipping 
> if you need it to do the security stuff? I.e. OSSEC ought to be a good log 
> aggregator to serve it’s primary security goal IMO.
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> [email protected] <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy Rossi
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:50 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [ossec-list] logging all, but not commands?
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> We would Very much welcome it. Some suggestions, but nothing more for the 
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> json and use first char of { to pick new code path for processing the 
> messages. This will allow master to work with legacy agents and new agents 
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> This is harder but something I am working now as part of the work on 
> actice response. Reasons it is harder is that unless we change the method 
> if encryption/communication at the same time we have no concept of agent 
> version so no idea what formats of messages are acceptable.  I still don't 
> know the best method for dealing with this and love ideas.  
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> Side note this log all feature comes up all the time and is confusing I 
> think and maybe something we should solve better.  But I am worried about 
> turning ossec from security to a log daemon as other tools have solved that 
> problem.  
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> On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:30 AM, "Janelle" <[email protected] 
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>  I guess I need to start a new brach and work on a way to do this :-)
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> On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 2:57:34 PM UTC-7, Michael Starks wrote:
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> On 2014-06-17 16:31, Janelle wrote: 
> > Trying to send "archives" to a syslog server for archival, and it 
> > can't handle all the extraneous code. 
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> Ah, yes. I have done this as well and had this problem with keepalives 
> and such. Another issue is that the ossec log format isn't syslog. It 
> looks like syslog but it's not. Then there's this: 
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> Agentless: 
> yyyy mmm dd hh:mm:ss (script_name) username->agentless ossec: agentless: 
> Change detected 
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> Command output: 
> yyyy mmm dd hh:mm:ss agentname->command 
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> Syscheck: 
> yyyy mmm dd hh:mm:ss (agent_name) agent_ip->syscheck 
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> Windows: 
> yyyy mmm dd hh:mm:ss (agent_name) agent_ip->log_name log_name_again 
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> Agent IP could be the IP or it could be "any." 
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> What I wish was that: 
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> 1. This was syslog formatted (or something else nice like JSON) 
> 2. In the syslog header, the hostname could be either the agent name or 
> the actual hostname 
> 3. Newlines were removed or otherwise handled gracefully 
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> And/or that raw logs could be sent over to a syslog server like alerts 
> are now, in addition to being analyzed. You could even strip off the 
> ossec header at that point and the syslog server wouldn't know the 
> difference. 
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