On Jul 1, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Stefano Mori wrote:

>
> On 2008-Jul-01, at 17:30, Kevin Callahan wrote:
>
>> well, I could mean any adults manipulated into believing in heaven  
>> and
>> who are willing to do/support evil things in the name of Jesus or  
>> some
>> other imaginary figure
>
>
> OK. What I found despicable was that they were manufacturing visions
> for kids on the battlefield sent out to look for mines.

totally despicable !!! agree 100%

> Adults have
> more of a chance to think for themselves, whilst children are, well,
> the innocent.

i knew you were going to say that ... and I thought that before I  
replied to you ..
but given how adults in the US were snowed by an obvious sham going  
into Iraq ..
and given how adults are snowed by religion ...   "thinking" adults  
are clearly vulnerable to the same manipulation

maybe "thinking for oneself" in and of itself, is not really a  
distinguishing factor when it comes to manipulation


I wanted to point out that adults, while they're supposed to be  
capable of thinking and being responsible to their thoughts, maybe we  
need to think less of an adult's regarded capacity to reason

?
that was essentially my point
albeit, a bit obscure
K


>
>
> So I was wondering what made you say "what about adults?" in reply to
> a story about the innocent... ?
>
> Stefano
>
>





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