On 2-Sep-2008, at 07:48, Charles Bennett wrote:

>
> On Sep 2, 2008, at 2:56 AM, Jared Earle wrote:
>
>> Has everyone forgotten the house raids? This started with a bunch of
>> SWAT raids on hippy houses that was so well organized they allegedly
>> raided next door to one of them by mistake.
>>
>> Oh, and right to bear arms vs confiscating bow and arrows. Pick one.
>
> throwing knives?
>
> This is not a right to bear arms issue.  ( the hypocrisy is  
> stunning, actually)
>
> Plotting with others to commit a crime IS a crime and the group had  
> been infiltrated so there was inside knowledge of what they planned  
> to do with the gun and knives.

There is no proof of this other than pres reports of some comments  
made by a cop; nothing about informants was mentioned in the few  
warrants they did obtain.  And the majority of the break-ins were  
warrantless and completely illegal. And the dearth of arrests  
certainly implies they had nothing, not to mention the lack of any  
substantial charges.

> This is basic police stuff and it will indeed provoke a SWAT  
> raid.    It's good to use SWAT when you know you are going to face  
> armed bad guys.

This is total bullshit. If they had as much 'proof' as they claim they  
did, every single person would be facing very serious charges.   
Instead this is a load of horseshit.  It's behavior like this that  
CAUSES violent protests.

>

-- 
How you have felt, o men of Athens, at hearing the speeches of m
        accusers, I cannot tell; but I know that their persuasive words
        almost made me forget who I was, such was the effect of the,;
        and yet they have hardly spoken a word of truth.

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