On 2009-Mar-16, at 06:08, mmalc Crawford wrote:

> Don't know... why is it that you cant help being a git?


git:

Total and utter tosser who is incapable of doing anything other than  
annoying people, and not in a way that is funny to others. Best used  
idly. e.g. "Git."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=git



Well, true.

I do it deliberately, when I think I have a different angle on  
something. It can get annoying when I'm poking and prodding. But  
that's mostly part of debating stuff. Once I was talking to some  
people in a spiritual community[1], and they all thought that their  
guru was doing something unique and completely different. As it  
happens I had been in some other groups and I thought some of the  
stuff was similar, and said so, "yeah I saw something like this  
elsewhere". They did not like hearing that. They were visibly annoyed.  
But there I didn't press the point too far, bearing in mind personal  
safety as well as just respecting people.

And in many places, bickering over stuff is just not the culture. When  
I've been in therapy or counselling type groups, I participate in  
being nice, open, friendly, easy going, agreeable. People let each  
other say whatever they need to, and you keep your disagreements to  
yourself, and empathize a lot. Everyone is there to be heard. We all  
join in consensus building. It is a group process and people don't  
want to take energy away from the space.

Now online, well the internet has all these men arguing till the late  
hours of the night. That's how I do it here. I worry that I'm being  
too annoying, but some annoyance is par for the course and as long as  
people are willing to reply then so be it.

Still, if people want to say, "enough already", then ok. I dunno. It's  
the culture of the group that sets the way things are. David, for  
example, may think I'm highly misguided, but if he's happy to debate,  
I appreciate that.

So here we are and a video of Jon is posted and some people think he's  
great. And I watch it and I get the impression he's using the excuse  
that he's "just a comedian" to evade the question. But people on  
Nutters think that I am just singularly wrong, and I try to debate  
that. Gets tedious. I wish though I'd have found earlier the Wikipedia  
reference to the media critic Dan Kennedy[2] who said Jon came across  
as "duplicitous", exactly for claiming he's just a comedian. At least  
it would have shortened the thread, relieved the boredom and  
annoyance, no?

Stefano

[1] http://www.andrewcohen.org/

[2] http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/dankennedy





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