On 14-May-2009, at 11:29, Kevin Callahan wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4JphqRbT0E

I think there is a great deal of naiveté on the part of the left wing  
liberals who insist that everything has to come out, everyone has to  
be punished, and that the new administration be as vindictive as they  
feel. Yes, I'd LOVE to see Bush/Cheney brought up on war crimes  
charges and imprisoned for the rest of their lives for what they've  
done. I also think that if that did happen, it would be a crippling  
blow to the US. (I'm still in favor of it, crippling blow be damn.  
made bed/sleep in it and all that).

The only thing in Obama's speech that is really objectionable is his  
saying "a small number of individuals" since we know that is *not*  
true. dozens, if not hundreds of people in many locations, not just  
Abu Ghraib.

The issues are a lot deeper than most people want to admit. It's not a  
matter of 'embarrassing' to the US, it is potentially very dangerous,  
not just to American soldiers, but to any Americans overseas.

Yes, Turley has some good points, but Obama is in a very tough spot  
here. On the one hand, he obviously wants this information out. On the  
other hand it is also obvious that he is getting a lot of advice  
telling him that it is a bad idea. He's found those arguments  
compelling at this point. I don't know who is making those arguments,  
and I don't agree with them, but I understand them.

I also think that Turley's point that the Administration *wants* to be  
*forced* to release these photos is likely to be exactly right. The  
photos *will* be released, and it is quite possible that one of the  
arguments in favor of the administration withholding them is exactly  
to have a clear and definitive legal ruling.

-- 
Rumour is information distilled so finely that it can filter
        through anything. It does not need doors and windows --
        sometimes it does not need people. It can exist free and wild,
        running from ear to ear without ever touching lips.

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