On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at 11:37:09 PM UTC+8, loïc DUTRIEUX wrote:

    Hi all,

    I´d like to ask two clarifications about the mean shift
    segmentation implemented in OTB. I was not able to find these in
    the doc.

    1 - What distance metric does the range radius parameter uses when
    working with multiple bands? Is it euclidean distance by default?

    So to further clarify how this works, if I have the following
    three pixels with associated values.

    | band  | Pixel 1 | Pixel 2 | Pixel 3 |
    | band1 | 50      | 55      | 100     |
    | band2 | 34      | 30      | 35      |
    | band3 | 60      | 56      | 60      |

    The euclidean distance between the pairs is the following.

    | Pair | Distance |
    | 1-2  | 7.5      |
    | 1-3  | 50       |
    | 2-3  | 45       |

    If I set a range radius of let's say 15, which is <<45 and >>7.5,
    does that mean that Pixels 1 and 2 will be made the same value and
    Pixel 3 will be another value (assuming they are all within the
    same spatial radius).

The distance is euclidean, but the outcome is not that simple. MeanShift will perform smooting of your input image, with the following steps applied for each pixel : - Look for neighboring pixels whose spatial location (in pixel) falls with the spatial radius AND whose euclidean distance between spectras falls within the range radius - Average those pixels positions to form a new spatial position for the current pixel, and average those pixels spectra to form a new spectrum for the current pixel - Iterates the process with the new position and spectrum until convergence conditions are met (max number of iterations or move bellow defined threshold).

So in the end, for each pixel in the image, you end up with a new spectrum and a proposed spatial position for this spectrum (those two things together are called a mode, this is actually an extrema of the image pdf). If you look at the image of new spectrum for each pixel, it will look smoother than the initial image, while preserving sharp edges. This is why mean-shift can be used for denoising. The image of new spatial position has no meaning by itself, but it is useful for segmentation.

In this case, you will want to group in the same segment pixels who converged to similar modes (i.e. new spectrum and spatial position). This can be done by connected components or strong connected components analysis.

Long story short, if two pixels fall within range and spatial radius of each other, it does not necessarily mean they will end up in the same segment. It is likely, but it depends on the distribution of the other pixels around them.

Hope that helps,

Regards,

Julien








    2 - My second question. What is the unit of the spatial radius?
    I'm assuming pixels, but I'd appreciate confirmation.

    The reason I am using the segmentation is that I'm trying to
    delineate areas of similar land use history using time-series of
    Landsat vegetation indices as input.

    Thanks in advance for your help,
    Cheers,

    ---
    Loïc Dutrieux
    Wageningen University
    The Netherlands

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