Hello Everyone:

What follows is a forwarded message (with the author's permission)
regarding differences between OT and PT.  The message is in response
to my original message requesting clarification on OT/PT issues.

I think the author of the message make MANY interesting and sound
arguments.  And, I've never had a PT make such arguments about
the similarity between OT and PT.

I am hoping readers will give me lots of feedback on the PT's message

Thanks,

Ron

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This is a forwarded message
From: [Name Withheld by Request]
To: Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, March 07, 2002, 3:32:49 PM
Subject: Gerontology

=================Original message text===============
Ron, I am referring to both PT and OT.  I was a manager of a large rehab
dept in a skilled nursing home and a Home health agency.  PT and OT
cannot get reimbursed for psycho social interactions based on a holistic
perspective.   We(PT and OT) get paid for functional training towards
goals in these settings.  I do not know what CPT code will get
reimbursed by Medicare for psycho social activities.  OT's where I
worked: worked on dressing, bathing, standing balance and endurance. Rom
and Strength, home assessments, cooking,  etc. The only patients
referred to OT in Home health were the ones that could not dress or cook
their dinner. Actually the criteria was if they asked for a home health
aid they got an OT instead to work on function.  I also work at an acute
care hospital and the only patients the OT sees are the strokes in the
stroke pathway, that is it. The OT's I know do so much stuff that is
similar to what I do that sometimes it is difficult to tell the
difference. We even bill the same CPT codes. 97530 as an example.  
The psycho social aspect is in every patient that we see but we cannot
bill anyone for it.  Psych hospitals may be different.  But that is a
very small portion of what OT's in the present health care system do.
Funding for psych was divested a couple of years ago and psych hospitals
closed right and left hence our sitting in their rooms even as I type. 
In my mind PT and OT, in the settings I am talking about do very similar
things but with different goals.  So last Sunday when I worked and Julie
the OT walked the patient down the hall to the bathroom she was working
on the goal of independently bathing and when I walked the same patient
to the gym I was working on endurance to be able to walk home. I did the
shoulder replacement patient in the AM and walked her and did Codman's
and she did the exact same thing in the PM, because we had decided that
was best for the patient.  We have all been forced by reimbursement to
become more functional in our approaches.  I seldom think  of PT and OT
as being remarkably different, in the settings that I am familiar with.
Sometimes if we got a referral for positioning for example we would say
well who ever is not busy PT or OT can do it. It is absolutely seamless
in my mind.
In 1973, when I took over as rehab manager of a school system that had
issues who does what.  I made it clear then and I will make it clear
now, we are not on different teams, we are the same team.  Generally
speaking at that time one class got a PT and the next one got an OT
and we did what needed done and did not bother about the credentials.
Today the only caveat I throw in, is we have to get paid.
Thanks 

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