The power of "occupation" is in the " all inclusive" factor of human
functioning (life- functions). Viewing  "life" as a sum total/ synthesis of
physiological/ physical, mental, emotional and social functioning. Where any
one aspect or multiples of such functioning components may cause an effect
on the others thus, causing an effect on life itself. Where these functional
components result in "life's occupation/ functions"- the ability to indulge
and perform activities appropriately needed tro live life "wholly".

Where a living being is seen as an 'occupational being' and not just a
'physical being' (but as a physical body that has the ability to act, think,
imagine, emote and co-exist with his fellow-beings and his environment,
caring for them and himself)....................

Where life is living.......and, the total of cease of the physiological/
physical, mental, emotional and social functioning is _______.


I think you are misunderstanding my point that I made in my last post. I do
not advocate a 'mechanistic' approach by itself, but in order to have a
holistic (occupational) approach, you cannot discard any one facet of it-
whether it be physical, mental, emotional or social. Hence, the
biomechanical aspects of functioning related to physical functioning, is
very much an area that the occupational therapist is/ must be cognizant and
competent to address as well. As  in my earlier post, I stated that this
aspect in itself may at times cause occupational independence/ improvement,
with no other factors complicating occupational performance.

While I hope that "occupation" is our domain, legally we cannot claim it as
ours only. With a couple of states yet to regulate OT in the US, anybody can
practice it there. While the principle of occupation has certainly be
claimed by our profession- and, "occupation" is what we "do-mainly", it is
not our domain in the strictest legal sense, since it is practiced overtly
or covertly by other professions. (The very topic of our thread).

I agree and truly believe that the difference between PT and OT is mainly
based upon the underlying principle and focus...we OTs are 'occupational'
focused. I have met very very few OTs in my 8 years of practice in the US
(across all clinical settings barring acute-pysch.)  that, do not go beyond
the realms of physical functioning.

The "power" of occupation also lies in how we accomodate for handicaps, i.e,
going beyond treating impairments/ addressing disabilities.  I agree that
though Reeves has very limited physical functioning but his life is not and
should not be devoid of occupations. Thus, the power of OT goes beyond the
chartered waters of physical functioning. However, as this thread was
started- heard very few stuff on how OTs benefitted Reeves. We know because
we are in the field that he must have received OT. To a lay person it is the
doctors, and nurses and then, the PT does it all!
Well, his therapists were able to synthesize his though very limited
physical functioning to help him with environmental controls- an essential
aspect of his ADLs. And, then gaining on his mental/ social functioning,
created an adaptive environment as needed to yet have "occupations" that
interest him/ are meaningful to him. He was facilitated/ trained/ learned to
utilize his physical functions to the best- e.g, puff/ turn head/ blink eyes
for environmental controls, improve his sitting balance/ tolerance, ensure
intact integumetary status to be able to sit on his wheelchair for extended
period of times, etc.

Again as "occupation" includes physical functioning, as OTs we do and must
know to identify physical issues and address/ utilize it to facilitate
appropriate human occupation. Or else, occupation will be addressed
elsewhere as well, and the profession will continue to be encroached......

"Physical functioning" is not our centre stage, "life functions" are........
To me life's functions are human occupations!

Joe



----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joe Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 5:38 AM
Subject: Re[8]: [OTlist] PT does it all!!


> Hello Joe:
>
> Sorry for taking so long to write back!
>
> I   don't  feel  that  a  therapist  can  use  both  a  mechanistic  and
> occupational  (i.e.  holistic)  approach.  The  two  approaches  are  at
> opposite  ends  of the spectrum. Neither do I think that a therapist can
> selectively  or randomly shift back in forth between the two approaches.
> I  believe  that  a  person  must  preselect  how  they  view people and
> pathology.
>
> Another difference that I feel is in your statement is your comment that
> "PTs ... address occupation issues as much as us." I firmly believe that
> occupation  is  our unique domain. When I say unique, I mean unique. OT's
> that  are  trained  in  occupation have a tremendous asset to offer their
> clients  and  an  asset  that  no  other  discipline  can  even begin to
> understand nor practice.
>
> Also,  while  I know of several OT's that exclude physical function from
> their  treatment,  I  am  not  such  a therapist, nor do I advocate such
> exclusion.  Physical  function is a contributor to successful occupation
> just  as much as any other entity and if it is limiting occupation, then
> it  should be addressed. However, I think that physical function is only
> ONE  of  many factors that affect occupation. Unfortunately, I feel that
> some  OT's  are  too  focused on the physical function at the expense of
> occupational function.
>
> To  focus  on physical function is PT (hence the name Physical therapy).
> To  focus  on  occupational  function is OT (hence the name Occupational
> therapy).  Bear  in  mind  that  by  definition,  occupational  function
> includes  physical  function  but  physical  function  does  not include
> occupational  function.  Also  Joe, physical function is not a necessary
> element  for  some  types of occupation.
>
> There  are  many  occupations  that  involve mental rather than physical
> function.  If  this  were  not  true,  then  our clients with high-level
> quadriplegia  would  not  have  any occupations. And I am confident that
> Christopher  Reeve's  life  is  full  of  occupation, even though he has
> almost no physical function.
>
> Joe,  you  make  a statement about the power of the occupation. From you
> perspective, what is that power?
>
> Thanks for the dialogue, I truly find it educational and inspiring!
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
> ===============================================================
> On 8/31/2003,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> JW> I agree Ron and I agree. That is why, I believe that as OTs we look
and go
> JW> beyond the realms of physical dysfn., that's why I say we take the
holistic
> JW> view. My only point is that we do look at the 'mechanistic' issue,
too, and
> JW> often the underlying pathology creates the other issues such as the
> JW> associated mental/ emotional, resulting environmental barriers, etc.,
which
> JW> would have otherwise been an non-issue. Sometimes, taking care of
those
> JW> 'mechanistic' issues helps to eliminate or mitigate the rest, and
sometimes
> JW> they don't. My thoughts are when PTs use the powers of their practice
acts,
> JW> take care of those physical issues, use 'seemingly' OT approaches,
they too
> JW> address occupational issues as much as us......I do not agree, what I
feel
> JW> some OTs are confusing with, that OT does not include or should not
include
> JW> addressing the physical issues.
>
> JW> My own thoughts are that most OTs  I have come across, do practice OT
with
> JW> all the tools available to them- true occupations, activities,
exercises,
> JW> PAMs, splints, AEs, etc. etc.. I have met very-very few OTs that are
not
> JW> addressing the occupational needs (barring the quality of how a few
document
> JW> such issues). To me, occupational performance sprites from activity
> JW> analysis, physical functioning being a part of it- usually the most
visible
> JW> and objective part. Since, in the world arena, OTs are mainly involved
in
> JW> the medical model/ with physical dysfunction issues, OTs should be in
tune
> JW> to be a holistic practitioner in this arena versus taking a
reductionistic
> JW> approach. I do not see the reason why a OT should wait for the UE
strength/
> JW> ROM to be increased by a PT before beginning dressing training or, why
have
> JW> two disciplines working together in order to achieve the same
'occupational'
> JW> outcomes for OTs, and 'physical functioning' outcome for PT- the
ability to
> JW> physically dress.The difference again is in semantics, theorized
approach
> JW> and, underlying principle.  I believe with no other complicating
factors
> JW> viz. mental issues, emotional issues, etc., PTs and OTs are equally
> JW> qualified to address this issue, and both disciplines are not needed
> JW> simultaneously.
>
> JW> To me the issue is not that OTs are trying to be PTs,  but that we do
not
> JW> understand the power in the word 'occupation' that entails everything
a
> JW> person should or wishes to do per societal or developmentally accepted
> JW> norms.
>
> JW> I believe OTs should not be further confused in the futile issue of
what
> JW> modalities is whose, rather understand the underlying occupational
needs
> JW> that need to taken care of by taking care of the pathology
(impairment) if
> JW> it can be corrected, disability if that can be changed with
'different'
> JW> ability, and the accomodations required for the handicap.....
>
> JW> Ron, it seems you and I agree for the most part. My major contention
is that
> JW> physical functioning is a very true and major part of occupational
> JW> functioning and, sometimes in cases of  physical dysfunctions with no
other
> JW> overtly mental/ emotional/ social dysfunction, may even become
inseperable.
> JW> In such cases too, while OTs are addressing the physical functioning
issues
> JW> directly, they are certainly addressing the occupational  goals of
their
> JW> clients (or should be), helping them to 'occupy' their lives in
meaningful
> JW> activities in a pain free, effective, time-sensitive,
aesthetic-deligent
> JW> world.
>
> JW> Sorry, just couldn't keep it short.
> JW> Joe
>
>
> JW> ----- Original Message -----
> JW> From: "Ron Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> JW> To: "Joe Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> JW> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 2:20 AM
> JW> Subject: Re[6]: [OTlist] PT does it all!!
>
>
> >> Hey Joe:
> >>
> >> For brevity, I've snipped your message.
> >>
> >> The  below  paragraph is sort of a mechanistic approach to therapy.
This
> >> type  of  approach  assumes that by fixing the person's "broken"
pieces,
> >> the  whole  person  will  be restored. For example, if someone loses
the
> >> ability  to drive secondary to decreased balance, a mechanistic
approach
> >> assumes  that  by  resorting  their balance, their ability to drive
will
> >> also  be  restored. While for some cases, this approach may be true,
for
> >> others it is just as likely to be false.
> >>
> >> Driving,  like  ALL  occupations,  is a complex phenomenon that
includes
> >> physical,   social,   emotional,   environmental   and  mental
factors.
> >> Successful  engagement  in occupation is not dependent on any one
factor
> >> but  on  the  culmination of ALL the factors. A therapist that assumes
a
> >> mechanistic  approach  may focus on only the most apparent factors,
such
> >> as  physical  impairment,  and  thus  may  miss  other  factors that
are
> >> preventing successful engagement in occupation.
> >>
> >> It  is important to assess occupational dysfunction and then to
directly
> >> document  the  dysfunction.  If  occupation  is  made the goal, then
the
> >> therapist  is  much more likely to see the whole picture of
occupational
> >> performance rather than seeing only the pieces that make up occupation.
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >>
> >> =============================================
> >>
> >> On 8/30/2003,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> JW> Obviously,  you realize on further interrogation one may ask-
what's
> >> JW> the  end  result  (goal) for increased tolerance, increased
balance,
> >> JW> decreased  pain,  decreased  stiffness-  all  would lead to the
same
> >> JW> goal-  increased  occupational  independence, whether or not that
is
> >> JW> addressed directly on paper.
> >>
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