MY Bad!!  Sorry about that, Pat!!  I guess I was being a bit defensive this 
morning.  I have heard so many people throughout my career say that animals in 
therapy is more appropriate for kids than adults...unfortunately, it was a gut 
level reaction.  Please forgive!!
 
Tammy

pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ohhhh... I didn't mean to imply that animals were kid stuff... only that I 
would also welcome suggestions that some people might consider being for 
younger groups!

Ron.. I plan to respond to your request for more information on the 
class... but you asked a question that I can't whip out a quick response to 
while I'm getting ready for work!

Pat

At 07:07 AM 2/17/2005, you wrote:
>Please do contact me. I would love to be of any help. Just one thing to 
>remember, many older citizens have pets, so they really don't think of it 
>as 'kid stuff'. Many look at their pets as companions, especially those 
>who have lost spouses. It's all about the presentation of the idea. If 
>you present or suggest that it is childish, they will perceive it as 
>such. If you present it as an opportunity to enjoy time spent with a "new 
>friend" many, including older men, really do enjoy it very much. Our 
>program visited all age groups and many rehab facilties. The animals were 
>well received by all.
>
>Try it!!
>Tammy
>
>pat 
wrote:
>I may be contacting you about that Tammy... my supervisor was talking about
>incorporating animals at some point. My own dogs are too old and have
>health problems, but one day a patient brought her own little dog in a
>carrier and the other patients loved it. I only work with adults, and
>right now my patients range in age from about 40 to 70... but they love
>activities that you would think of as "kid stuff".
>
>Thanks for the suggestion!
>
>Pat
>
>At 08:40 PM 2/16/2005, you wrote:
> >Pat,
> >
> >I can appreciate your frustration with not getting the response from
> >groups that you had hoped. I think we become so focused on goals that we
> >tend to forget that a good therapist can take nearly any activity and make
> >it therapeutic, irregardless of the actual defined goal.
> >
> >It seems that the standard things that I have observed in a clinic or
> >hospital setting include the same things that you have mentioned. Now,
> >with my past career eperience, I have something to recommend, because it
> >is a great group activity for any age. I incorporate animals into the
> >group. The activities that you can do with animals are endless: tossing
> >toys, grooming, brushing teeth (my dog loves to have the patients do
> >this), walking, reminiscing, etc, etc. etc. I know this is one idea out
> >of thousands that are out there, but this is one that seems to transcend
> >so many different ages and populations.
> >
> >If you need some help finding someone in your area, please let me know. I
> >used to coordinate an "award winning" program that brought animals into
> >hospitals, plus I trained and evaluated people and their pets for such
> >work. I have a lot of experience in policy development, infection control
> >practices, risk management, and marketing of these programs. It is what I
> >did for nearly 10 years BEFORE I became an OT. I now have my own dog come
> >to our pediatric clinic. All therapists use her in sessions (PT, OT, and
> >speech). The things kids (and adults) will do to interact with an animal
> >is amazing!!
> >
> >Hope this is of help to you!
> >Tammy
> >
> >pat
>wrote:
> >This past weekend I attended an 8 hr. continuing ed class called
> >"Rediscovering Fun in Rehabilitation". It wasn't at all what I had
> >expected or wanted, but it was by far the best class I have ever been
> >to. It was 8 hrs of sheer fun and laughter and well worth the airline
> >tickets and hotel room. I almost hate to admit that it was run by
> >a PT. He talked a lot about the history of PT and where PT was
> >going, but it was interesting to hear that "they" have many of the same
> >concerns we do. I felt kind of like a fly on the wall eavesdropping on a
> >secret society.
> >
> >What I was looking for was fun ideas for the patients... things I could do
> >with them in group therapy that would be an active respite from the rest of
> >the 8 hr day they put in (it's a pain management program, 40 hrs a week for
> >6 weeks). What I got was new ways of thinking for therapists who are on
> >the verge of being burned out (or already there) and dread going to
> >work. Pay attention Ron... I recently revisited a thread that was almost a
> >year old where you talked about losing your passion for OT, and this
> >guy is in FLORIDA!! (He goes to several other states though) In spite of
> >the fact that he's a PT, the class is hilarious and very relevant to OTs..
> >and it's only $89 for 8 CEUs! If anyone is interested, his name is Michael
> >Niss and his website is www.cheapceus.com
> >
> >Unfortunately, I am in the same position I was before attending that
> >class... I still need fresh ideas for group activities. We do things like
> >volleyball with a beach ball, hitting a balloon back and forth with
> >flyswatters (one of their favorites), ring toss, toss across, and similar
> >games. I posted this question on AOTAs listserv but all I got was "What
> >are your goals?" and "What do you want to accomplish?" My goal is fun for
> >the patients, it's a long day... and it doesn't hurt if there is some
> >physical activity thrown in. There must be someone on this list that does
> >different group activities and is willing to share? Please?
> >
> >Pat
> >
> >
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