It does help. Thanks!

Arley Johnson MS, OTR/L
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Carson
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 7:41 AM
To: Johnson, Arley
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Advance for OT Article: Point #3

Hello Arley:

Good questions.

Here's  my  approach  regarding  the  mobility  aides.  If  I'm seeing
patients  in  my  private  practice,  I  assume all responsibility for
progressing  patients'  mobility  aides.  IF I'm seeing patients under
home health, I generally leave the mobility aides to the PT. I only do
this  because  it's  traditionally what they do and I very new with my
company and don't want to step on toes. Plus, it can be very confusing
to  the patient if I'm using a cane and the PT is using a walker. But,
I  can't  say  that  I  always do this, because I'm currently seeing a
patient  who  has  been  using  a  walker  to stand but the we've been
ambulating with hand-held assist.

Progressing  patients  to  their  goals  starts  at  the  least common
denominator  that  is  keeping them from reaching their goals AND that
I'm  able  to  positively affect. Without doubt, the most common areas
that I address are:

1. Motivation
2. Fear
3. Environment
4. Lower extremity strength/ROM
5  Endurance
6. Family

My approach generally involves engaging the patient in the desired
outcome at the greatest level they can sustain.  For example:

1. A current patients goal is to pun on her own underwear.

        Her  greatest  limitation  is  LE  strength,  fear of falling,
        endurance  and  maybe  even  motivation.  So,  we have started
        standing  beside with her walker, recording the length of time
        she can stand. Initially, it was 15 secs and on Friday, it was
        over 2 minutes.

        I've  been  encouraging  her  to  take  a  step.  Once  she is
        comfortable  with  her  standing,  she  will  and then we will
        progress to walking to her dresser to get her clothes.

        Once  she  is able to get her clothes, I will probably need to
        provide  some  adaptive equipment to extend her reach to start
        her underwear over her feet.

2. Another patient (s/p total hip replc) needs to be independent in
her apartment.  Specific goals are outlined below.  I evaluated her
last Wednesday and on Friday, here's what we did:

        1.  Using  her walker, the patient ambulated to her car in the
        garage and we discussed and practiced car transfers.

        2.  We did a "dry run" for shower transfers and discussed grab
        rail placement and the need for different equipment

        3. We practiced bed transfers and reviewed hip precautions

        4.  We  spent  a GREAT deal of time working on proper techique
        for  sit/stand.  The  patient  tends  to  over use her arms (a
        learned  habit to avoid pain in her hip) and now I'm trying to
        teach  her  the  old "nose over the toes" approach to standing
        while extending her affected hip.

Does this help?

Ron
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Ron Carson MHS, OT

----- Original Message -----
From: Johnson, Arley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008
To:   [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subj: [OTlist] Advance for OT Article: Point #3

JA> Ron:
JA> Just curious, with the below patient, what is your intervention
JA> to facilitate progression towards these goals? 
JA> In regards to the simple meal prep goal, did your patient define
JA> independence without mobilty aide when navigating around the
JA> kitchen? If so, do you stay on the case until this is achieved?
JA> And if so, how do you progress them off of the mobility aide to
JA> head towards this goal during your sessions?
JA>  
JA> No harm, I'm sincerely just trying to understand how you would approach 
this common situation.
JA>  
JA> Arley Johnson, MS, OTR/L
JA>  
JA> ________________________________

JA> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ron Carson
JA> Sent: Sat 9/6/2008 8:23 AM
JA> To: Neal Luther
JA> Subject: Re: [OTlist] Advance for OT Article: Point #3



JA> Hello Neal:

JA> If OT's would adopt occupational goals then patients would be d/c when
JA> those  goals  are  achieved.  For  example,  if  the goal is:

JA>          "By  d/c,  patient  will  safely  and  independently transfer
JA>          to/from car"

JA> Once  the  goal is best achieved the patient is discharged. Of course,
JA> patients have multiple goals but the concept is the same.

JA> Just  last week, I evaluated a patient with total hip replacement. The
JA> evaluation resulted in 5 goals (in abbreviated format):

JA>         1. In/out shower
JA>         2. In/out of car
JA>         3. On/off toilet
JA>         4. Simple meal prep
JA>         5. Lower body dressing

JA> Using  the  above  approach,  it's  easy  to tell when the goal(s) are
JA> achieved.  If  additional  goals  are  not established, the patient is
JA> discharged.  Also,  this  approach  empowers  the patient because they
JA> generate their own goals.

JA> I  strongly  believe that my job is NOT making goals, but facilitating
JA> the patient to achieve them. Of course, there are exceptions.

JA> Ron
JA> --
JA> Ron Carson MHS, OT

JA> ----- Original Message -----
JA> From: Neal Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
JA> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008
JA> To:   [email protected] <[email protected]>
JA> Subj: [OTlist] Advance for OT Article: Point #3

NL>> Arley
NL>> I could not agree more!  You are making some of the same points
NL>> that I believe Dr. Sorenesen has made recently with regard to EI
NL>> (quite a broohaha).  We simply don't know how/when to D/C I
NL>> believe in part because we have not established plans of care
NL>> based on sound clinical reasoning.  We confuse altruism with
NL>> therapeutic intervention (give a man a fish vs. teach a man to
NL>> fish).  This results in treating everyone and everything and if
NL>> done so long enough even the smallest changes/improvements are
NL>> claimed to be as result of treatment.  My two cents.


NL>> Neal C. Luther,OTR/L
NL>> Rehab Program Coordinator
NL>> Advanced Home Care
NL>> 1-336-878-8824 xt 3205
NL>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

NL>> Home Care is our Business...Caring is our Specialty






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