I first have to agree with Chris....but, my question is did you ask the 
patient, "Why do you want the range of motion to improve, and why do you want 
the pain to go away?"  I emphasis a movement-strategy-impairment approach to 
examination.  I first observe the patient perform functional tasks, decide if 
the strategy is faulty, and then hypothesize why (i.e. what impairments cause 
the faulty strategy in fu8nctional movements).  If the patient demonstrates for 
you particular functional activites and the limitations of the strategy are 
evident, then you can correlate for her how the range and pain affect function.

Secondly, I don't get it, Ron.  Why did the PT say he/she could not do anything 
for this patient?

David A. Lehman, PhD, PT

Associate Professor

Tennessee State University

Department of Physical Therapy

3500 John A. Merritt Blvd.

Nashville, TN 37209

615-963-5946

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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [OTlist] UE Evauation Yesterday...

Ron said:
"For sure,?? improving?? her?? elbow? function? will? improve? occupational
performance, but the patient's concern is NOT occupation."

If the patient is not concerned about her occupations why does she want her 
elbow to improve in function? And the record player continues!

Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR










-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 9:19 am
Subject: [OTlist] UE Evauation Yesterday...



Hello Everyone:

Yesterday,   I   received   a  home  health  referral  for  a  humeral
fracture/tricpes  tendon  reattachement. By now, I'm sure most regular
readers  are  aware  of  my  stance  on  OT's  NOT  being  UE experts.
Interestingly,  PT  had  already  evaled  the  patient  and  said they
couldn't do anything.

So, as I'm sitting there talking with the patient, I'm encouraging her
to  use  her  affected UE for daily activity such as eating, dressing,
toileting.  During  this time, I'm thinking there just isn't much role
for  OT.  The  patient's  concern is ROM and pain, not occupation. For
sure,   improving   her   elbow  function  will  improve  occupational
performance, but the patient's concern is NOT occupation.

As  I'm sitting there pondering doing ROM, exercises and strengthening
the  patient  tells  me  that  her doctor ordered outpatient PT. Since
patients  can not be on home health while going to outpatient therapy,
I discharged the patient.

It   was  an  awkward  situation.  The  family  and  I  discussed  the
differences  between  OT  and  PT and how some OT's treat UE injuries.



Ron
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Ron Carson MHS, OT


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