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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting so bad? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying behavior on email discussion lists? On 7/28/13 8:47 AM, Randolph D. wrote: > Hi Ian, as normal tester of the release I am not able to provide > you with a documentation of the protocol. there seems to be much > Information and comments in the code. Dear "Randolph D.", Right now I would say that you are wasting the time of people on this discussion list, who are very busy (and therefore don't have time to read through the code comments of some random SourceForge project) and also very knowledgeable (and therefore know a lot more about security technologies than you do). Thus the conversation here is not very productive. If you could convince the developer of this "Goldbug" software to engage in discussion here, perhaps we would make more progress. > Well, think to send the Echo over OTR is a quite good initiative: > Adding the libspoton kernel to OTR has the following pro's: - it > adds another encryption layer to OTR Not if the other encryption layer is compromised, reveals too much information, enables side channels or man in the middle attacks, etc. Encryption != security (ask anyone who has clicked "accept certificate" during a leap of faith and ended up connecting to the wrong server!). > - it offers a unique GUI api to every OTR - Strategey: OTR becomes > not a encryption Service, but a Messenger itself: you can still > send the Message from Google-to-Google user line, but with the > OTR-KERNEL Hybridity, you also can use any other line like AOL - > AOL or OTR to OTR. All Messenger protocols and accounts will become > just an IP address, not a Login for a dedicated account or line. > That means this hybrid tool would override all IM-Networks/Accounts > and dedicated surveillance for these accounts and lines, as the > message can "travel" several connections. inside AOL to AOL , but > also any other connection. I have to say, much of what you have written in this thread is very hard to understand. It's full of buzzwords, but no real technical details. The same is true for the Goldbug website. I really do appreciate your enthusiasm, but enthusiasm does not necessarily lead to secure systems. > 2013/7/28 Ian Goldberg <i...@cypherpunks.ca > <mailto:i...@cypherpunks.ca>> Oh, and am I not the only one who has noticed that "Goldbug" might be a play on Ian's family name? Peter - -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJR9TIoAAoJEOoGpJErxa2p1JUP/1/dxs9DHJDKNmr+46zZeOua PXaUkSH2Hc+TCT8XPGli7/3wnGa6znl/3K3m4G6sbeqxFDC1cwpANFffv7jozg3A Zr+UL6z35R9sjgm20bqTuspKMx3cMNoCTiF2SlpcJ/9xLhNs5Ennpfml2V0tD3Xj 9JvnAcDA9ka7CNE2+gL36QO4I3NBYyezrp24g4xxYwy/plNoNBozwDs0TSvTe7a+ dxpV5WIPEpqxDedm6k8LMEu/OiaWYs3pjiFFfCGgsyKOuCWcxHoCoiPfOwEieKI0 V9Ea1kZq9hLcIe+PZNAdIySlZytVunTZ7XOvh5ux2vyF/P/yB09ZUq45oYIdd+cI /VGqetfjVz9xwDhpQ280dIUXHH/UtR14s3aKg9ds7aYoYFE/qejR6jEkk7l5kp5/ wqMWxRbC9Q2eNgMDlIgTNaA4jQO3Q3ptF079WRp3pvF2kI9SSFFpCa2xUhZwPkuL 1wdwF+Q1KAvdhXtcFmoa7VW2Z9LX9ij4ByYQ2RfpFOU2Gerh5IqYBO6Yu0q8oYyK WYHNXkU1WY/J/iKeEA/c0/IQdKbcd0kTSIBQjEQRZ0B4sw0r/Q9KLc7s8Nr+GtLy a1WRXNV7aRHCg5L+cMBc+K44JDrm/zOBY3CWq/k1TVApN+A7pOvG2D59EWEB4E/D tTGPyc5zvzDUSP6ploVi =xRj/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ OTR-dev mailing list OTR-dev@lists.cypherpunks.ca http://lists.cypherpunks.ca/mailman/listinfo/otr-dev