Hi Guy,
We’ve been working on preparing a first draft for the specification of the 
protocol. Once our first draft is ready and reviewed, we will open it for 
public review on this list. However, the current state of the specification 
draft is not mature enough to be open for public review. It would be a better 
use of everyone’s time if we waited until we could show them a substantial, 
mature draft. As I’m sure you understand, these things take time, and we need 
to make sure we have something substantial before we ask everyone on this list 
to generously contribute their time to review our proposed spec.

Later this April we are organizing a summit here in Montreal to invite visiting 
cryptographers to review and comment on our first draft before we open it for 
public review. I see that you work for Mega — one of your colleagues (Ximin 
Luo) was already invited to this summit, so surely we haven’t been as “fishy” 
as you suggest, and I’m not sure why you seem to be complaining about a lack of 
involvement.

Regarding our upcoming summit, we’ve taken care to invite a mix of 
theory-focused, implementation-focused and usability-focused individuals so 
that we can use that summit to make sure we have something substantial to 
present for public review in May. Rest assured that once we’ve done all the 
polishing we can, we will open a draft for public review in order to 
incorporate comments and suggestions.

Thanks,
NK


On Mar 27, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Guy K. Kloss <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> in January there was quite some chatter here on mpOTR, and it seemed
> like quite a few people had an interest in it.
> 
> Then there was a call for participation by Nadim to get involved on it.
> I've seen that there were some messages offering to collaborate (at
> least publicly on the list by Dennis and myself). It seemed like nobody
> has ever acknowledged our proposal (at least I have never seen a mail).
> 
> Then there was an mpOTR project plan [0], which magically appeared on
> the Cryptocat blog, without being mentioned anywhere on the OTR-dev
> mailing list. I just stumbled upon it accidentally.
> 
> According to the timeline, there were supposed to be some deliverables
> already by March/April (which is pretty much now), but there was
> *nothing* to be heard anywhere!
> 
> I don't know how the project is supposed to be run, or what's happening.
> But it seems like for a collaborative, public, community project,
> something looks fishy from the outside.
> 
> We have the need for mpOTR (or something like it), and have offered help
> to make it happen. Even though we need something more quickly, we wanted
> to align our interims solution with the approaches and strategies of
> mpOTR to avoid coming up with opposing solution. This kind of stuff is
> not really possible without any transparency or involvement in the process.
> 
> So, bottom line: I'd like to know what's up with the process, where it
> is, and be able to align our work with the way the mpOTR spec is evolving.
> 
> Guy
> 
> 
> [0] https://blog.crypto.cat/2014/01/mpotr-project-plan/
> 
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