Jim,

You already received some good feedback.

According your scenario as described, OTRS works straight forward to the way 
you desire:

A 'servicedesk QUEUE' that receives all the cases (possibly also tier-2 
reassign back to this Queue), and from there MOVING (reassigning, changing) to 
the proper specialist queue (tier-2).  I think move/assigning to queue will 
have the desired outcome (no need I think to have a "group agent" to set 
ownership to (by default), but still this IS an option).

You are, as far as I can see, facing some issues with functionality as 
"locking" and "ownership". A few tweaks may come in handy.


Locking
-------
The functionality has been previously explained. There are a few settings you 
could tweak to your needs however. Even to view _always_ the 'locked' state 
tickets, however this would blur the overview on cases actually needing action 
from someone- in queue view! There is a script, by the way, to unlock tickets 
automatically (can be scheduled as needed).


You can set the following options, that I think may help you in fine tuning to 
your needs:

As Admin in sysconfig under 'Ticket -> Core::Ticket'

 # Ticket::EventModulePost###1-ForceStateChangeOnLock: 
 #   Ticket event module to force a new ticket state after lock action.
 #   As key you have to define the current state and the next state as
 #   content after lock action.

Sets it from 'new' to 'open' by default

 # Ticket::EventModulePost###1-ForceOwnerResetOnMove: 
 #   Ticket event module to reset and unlock the owner if ticket gets moved to 
another queue.

Probably you already have set this - I think you need to!

 # Ticket::EventModulePost###99-ForceUnlockOnMove: 
 #   Ticket event module to force tickets to be unlocked after moving to 
another queue.
This also.

 # Ticket::ViewableLocks: 
 #  Viewable locks. Default: unlock, tmp_lock.
What tickets show up in overviews. Like I said before, I would not add locked 
here...
To get a better overview, better use StateView (explained later) or search, or 
template search.

 # Ticket::UnlockStateType: 
 #  The states for unlocked tickets.
 #  You can unlock tickets with the script "bin/UnlockTickets.pl".
This relates to the script that unlockes (as desired; hourly, daily....?)


Perhaps also useful:

 # Ticket::ViewableStateType: 
 # State types for a ticket to display.


Your queue owners should I think see open or new cases, and assign them 
accordingly.
If not agents themselves can take ownership (default scenario)



StatusView
----------
A very handy button to add next to QueueView, which by default is OFF.
Set under SysConfig:  Ticket -> Frontend::Agent::ModuleRegistration

  # Frontend::Module###AgentTicketStatusView: 
  #  Frontend module registration for the AgentTicketStatusView
  #  object in the agent interface.
  #  Ticket -> Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewStatus


Search with templates
---------------------
A function also not automatically set, but useful to us:
Under   Ticket -> Frontend::Agent::NavBarModule

   # Frontend::NavBarModule###1-Ticket::TicketSearchProfile: 
   #  Agent interface module to access search profiles via nav bar.


Moving
------
You likely have configured the agent/user profiles who can move_into, or not.
You could change the default Move/Change to button behavior:

  # Ticket::Frontend::MoveType: 
  # The queue selection can be shown in a dropdown list or in a new window.
  # If "New Window" is set you can add a move note to the ticket.

The position of the button/function is odd (and it shifts down).
I am still looking into a way to have this button removed, or moved to the 
default action bar. Moving to a queue could also be done through let's say a 
'Note' action.



ACL
---
For a certain restriction in workflow, not standard handled by OTRS you may 
want to look into the ACL functionality (e.g. 'Close' not an option in tier-2 
queues, Move or possible queues to move to limited to.... customers, agents 
etc.)

gr,
Frans

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> James Burk
> Sent: woensdag 15 april 2009 20:01
> To: User questions and discussions about OTRS.
> Subject: Re: [otrs] Queue View and Ticket Owner
> 
> Hello Marco.  I apologize if I have over simplified your question.  But
> this is how my organization creates and work tickets with OTRS.
> 
> Our organization has decided that tier 1 (service desk) and tier 2
> (advanced support groups) are Agents in OTRS.  All of these Agents are
> assigned to Groups, and each Group is associated with a similarly named
> Queue.  Our service desk receives calls from users, as most
> organizations do, and SD uses client interface  Phone-ticket to create
> tickets.  When they understand what Service is failing they select
> that.
>  We have the Services associated with the support Groups/Queue.  The SD
> selects the Queue from the "To" field.  After all the pertinent
> information is completed they Create and an email notification goes to
> the user and to the Group to whom the ticket was assigned.  The tier 2
> support Group then assigns to a particular Agent within the Group and
> they resolve the ticket.
> 
> As I think you know OTRS is also capable of accepting email from users,
> and then filters them into the proper Queue.  We have decided not to
> implement that capability at this time.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jim
> 
> >>> Marco Vannini <[email protected]> 4/14/2009 4:59 PM >>>
> It looks quite strange. unless it is not configured something strange
> seem that SD sets agents too. Are you able to tell us how they do a
> ticket ?  they sends email or they use the web interface  ? are they
> otrs agents or customer ?
> 
> Are you able to tell us how SD opens tickets
> 
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:02 PM, James Burk <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Thank you Marco.
> >
> > In our installation we have a rule that the Service Desk assigns
> > tickets only at the Group level, not the Agent level.  That way
> "Queue
> > Monitors" for the Groups can then assign to the Agents and begin the
> > work in progress.  As OTRS by default assigns the ticket creator as
> the
> > owner unless explicitly assigned, how will the queue monitors be able
> to
> > view the ticket in order to assign?  Yes, they will get a
> notification
> > that a ticket has been assigned to their group, but they won't be
> able
> > to view the queue.  Am I still missing something?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >>>> Marco Vannini <[email protected]> 4/14/2009 3:31 PM >>>
> > this is the manner that tickets are managed by otrs. It means that a
> > ticket is in "work in progress" by the agent that has taken it.
> >
> > Listed in the browse windows mean that ticket are not owned by
> anyone
> > ("waiting to be worked") so not still in "wip" state
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, James Burk <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >> Thank you Leonardo.  You seem to be the only one in the community
> > who
> >> will answer my questions.
> >>
> >> It seems, however, the Agent must be the Owner of the ticket for it
> > to
> >> show up in the Queue.  Does this seem reasonable?
> >> For example I have a group called security test group and an
> > associated
> >> queue, security test queue.  There are two agents in the group,
> > myself
> >> and a colleague.  When I create a ticket and by default the Owner
> is
> > me,
> >> I can view the ticket.  When I create a ticket and assign Ownership
> > to
> >> my colleague, I cannot see the ticket in the Queue.  I can search
> > and
> >> find it, but it is not visible in the queue for me.
> >>
> >> Curious, eh?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>>>> Leonardo Certuche <[email protected]> 4/14/2009
> >> 12:33 PM >>>
> >> Hi there,
> >>
> >> Go to index.pl?Action=AdminUserGroup and associate each User(Agent)
> > to
> >> Groups. Then go to index.pl?Action=AdminQueue and associate each
> > queue
> >> to a
> >> Group. When an user has access over a group, he will also have
> > access
> >> to the
> >> queue associated to that group.
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM, James Burk <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello all.
> >>>
> >>> I've implemented OTRS ITSM 1.2.3.  I've come across a situation I
> >> can't
> >>> explain.  It seems that only the Owner of a Ticket can see that
> >> Ticket in
> >>> the Queue View.  I want all Agents in the Group assigned to a
> Queue
> >> to be
> >>> able to view those Tickets whether they are Owner or not.  How do
> I
> >> do this?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks and best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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