Unfortunately I've never used the customer interface to any great
degree so I'm not sure of how it hangs together from the customer
interface point of view. I imagine its pretty similar but I can't say
any more than that.

A useful exercise is to bash out a visio diagram of what you currently
have and what you want, in terms of Queue's, Groups, Roles and Users.
I found it best to do a Roles to Groups relationship and a Roles to
Users relationship seperately. I'm sure you could add a diagram from
the customer interface point of view.
I found this very helpful when I was redesigning, made it easier for
me to keep track of what I had to do and it was good documentation for
management and future reference/training.

Rory

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2009/9/18 Isaac Weissenberger <[email protected]>:
> Thank you for your help Rory, I haven't had a chance as of yet to try this 
> setup but it looks good. The only thing I am confused about is where the 
> customer users group fits into this scenario? That was a problem I was 
> having, if I assigned a queue to a different group other that the "ACE 
> Employees" default user group, no one could see the queues in the customer 
> interface. What do I do about that?
>
> Thank you!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rory
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:32 PM
> To: User questions and discussions about OTRS.
> Subject: Re: [otrs] Troubles setting up OTRS agent group and queues to work 
> the way I want it to...
>
> Hi Isaac,
>
> I've worked with a similar setup before and this is what I did (Ascii
> art version :);
>
> For Queues I used the following model, (Permissions in brackets)
>
> Role 1
> |__Group 1 (rw)
> |...|__Queue 1
> |...|__Queue 2
> |__Group 2 (rw)
> ....|_Queue 3
>
> Role 2
> |__Group 1 (r)
> |...|__Queue 1
> |...|__Queue 2
> |__Group 3 (rw)
> ....|__Queue 4
> ....|__Queue 5
>
>
> For Users I used the following model
>
> Role 1
> |__User 1
> |__User 2
> |__User 3
>
> Role 2
> |__User 2
> |__User 4
> |__User 5
> |__User 6
>
>
> So to explain that lovely diagram;
>
> The Roles I mention in both the Queue and the User model are the same
> entity i.e. User 1 and Group 1 are assigned to the same Role.
> Any User in Role 1 has access to any Group in Role 1 and hence any
> Queue in Role 1 (depending on the rights you give Role 1 over the
> Group)
>
> You cannot apply a Role to a Queue so you must apply it to a Group.
> You must apply a Group to a Queue.
> In this way you apply a Role to a Queue. You can apply more than one
> Role to a Group which means you can have one Role with Full access and
> another Role with read only access.
> Using my example above,
>
> Users 1 and 3 have Read/Write access to Queues 1, 2 and 3.
> Users 4, 5 and 6 have Read access to Queues 1 and 2 but have also
> Read/Write access to Queues 4 and 5.
> User 2 has Read/Write access to all Queues.
>
> When you apply a Role to a User there is only 1 box to tick. When you
> remove the User from the Role, only one box to un-tick.
>
> I found this model the easiest to administrate for and it also allowed
> me to create a Role under special circumstances when needed that gave
> access to only the Queues I wanted it to.
> You should group your Queues by department as this is usually the
> clearest breakdown i.e. If a person can see one IS Queue its usually
> ok for them to see all IS Queues.
>
> Administrating Roles can get a bit messy if you don't name them
> clearly. It can be difficult to tell whats a Group and what's a Role.
> To get over this I prefix all Roles with r_
> Some example of roles would be;
>
> r_finance
> r_IT
> r_IS
> r_managers
> r_reports
>
> I also do the same with groups;
>
> g_finance
> g_IT
>
> This way everything stays clear and organised making it less like
> you'll make a mistake that could take hours to correct.
> I hope that's the kind of thing you're looking for.
>
> Rory
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>
>
> 2009/9/18 Isaac Weissenberger <[email protected]>:
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> I setup OTRS in our environment about a year and a half ago and have been
>> administrating it since. It worked real good for what we have been using it
>> for. Which we only had 1 group of agents and then a group the all the
>> Employees to be automatically added to. However now there is another
>> department that wants to be added to OTRS as agents with their own separate
>> queues. This is how I want it to be setup, can you please help me with this?
>> As follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> "ACE Employees" is the group for all customers.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have 2 separate roles and queues for the 2 different departments "IS" and
>> "IT".
>>
>>
>>
>> We have 3 "IT" queues and 7 "IS" queues that want customers to be able to
>> see all 10 queues.
>>
>>
>>
>> I want only IT agent users to see the tickets in the IT queues, and only the
>> IS agent users to be able to see the tickets in IS queues.
>>
>>
>>
>> I want agents to be able to move tickets to the other groups queues if they
>> feel the ticket was submitted to the wrong place.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think that pretty much covers it. If someone could give me some insight on
>> this I would be so appreciative!
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Isaac Weissenberger
>>
>> Network Operations Specialist
>>
>> Ace Communications Group
>>
>> 507.896.6236 phone
>>
>> 507.429.9367 cellular
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>> www.acegroup.cc
>>
>>
>>
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