The circuits bouncing is most likely Comcast doing rolling DOCSIS firmware 
updates, assuming you all are seeing it on coax circuits.  I've seen it as well 
over in the VA region.

Thank you,
Braden McGrath
IT Systems Engineer
Saber Healthcare Group

From: Outages [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Hall via 
Outages
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 7:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [outages] Comcast/Level 3 Issues - Detroit/Chicago Areas -- Now 
CenturyLink today too?

I've been seeing this same behavior. Connection bouncing, sometimes multiple 
times, in the middle of the night. Had one branch office in IL bounce 3 times 
night before last.


Thanks!
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I.T. Manager
@Work Personnel Service
3815 Hwy 66 S, Suite 4
Rogersville, TN 37857
Office: (423)272-7897, x10113
Mobile: (423)312-6003
[cisco-certified-ccnp][CCP-V]



From: Outages [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Wagner via 
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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 2:22 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [outages] Comcast/Level 3 Issues - Detroit/Chicago Areas -- Now 
CenturyLink today too?

We have been seeing more issues in the last few weeks with our Comcast Business 
customers also. Lots of offline alerts at night. Most in the same geographical 
area and it seems like they are doing different areas each week.

No evidence though from them. When we call them there like what are you talking 
about?




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From: Outages [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B.J. Ash via 
Outages
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 10:07 AM
To: Outages Mailing List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [outages] Comcast/Level 3 Issues - Detroit/Chicago Areas -- Now 
CenturyLink today too?

Does anyone have any information on some ongoing issues with Comcast in the 
Michigan area since end of April that involve intermittent packet loss, latency 
spikes (from normal 20 ms to 500+ ms), and just overall cruddy paths?

We're seeing issues with 3 of our sites in West/Central Michigan that use 
Comcast Business for Internet as they route from Comcast to Level 3.  
Traceroutes seem to die somewhere in Chicago or leaving Detroit either in Level 
3 or at the edge of Comcast:


Tracing the route to 172.87.34.1
VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
  1 
50-77-204-206-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://50-77-204-206-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net&c=E,1,MesRXXX-ZpHhLB33CeAxAXaukAm9dMf3Fh0yMfozobuQGQxj71pIOS9sqQQhWWdrwMNdiWO1PJYRrJO1hmyPQlWjZbF1vS0HE5gDskwxNyvFlmTV&typo=1>
 (50.77.204.206) 52 msec 40 msec 32 msec
  2 96.120.42.37 32 msec 44 msec 40 msec
  3 xe-7-0-6-sur02.muskegon.mi.michigan.comcast.net (68.85.189.25) 52 msec 52 
msec 56 msec
  4 xe-1-3-1-0-sur01.lyndon.mi.michigan.comcast.net (68.87.189.177) 60 msec 68 
msec 64 msec
  5 
ae2.bar1.detroit1.level3.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://ae2.bar1.detroit1.level3.net&c=E,1,VX1Wtis8mOU_HmkSZzDyqRAzH8VxM31xi8BamAQacC92kIgCHjrUZEqIpVd2L20v8HRTRJ4FQDgFH1AEXGVN3um02afezL5hpr3HkDPQU7e1Ft--&typo=1>
 (4.68.71.33) 72 msec 64 msec 64 msec
  6  *  *  *
  7 
lynx-networ.ear3.chicago2.level3.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://lynx-networ.ear3.chicago2.level3.net&c=E,1,mTHzCTVbGRpda9786-dOlc-yLOkIB66HjJCxrLXuEQEdu2xhWIuXr6_SvQCB4kFn1GiRVSEifzVjZsKgz7Xy7RdIeSc6qS_pN_Oi8yk,&typo=1>
 (4.35.108.250) 136 msec 144 msec 152 msec
  8 
66.35.87.172.in-addr.arpa.lynxnetworkgroup.com<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://66.35.87.172.in-addr.arpa.lynxnetworkgroup.com&c=E,1,p32JgU9qvfSYIqYng6cxDawsSW4AhPwqOOoN6BSHDrYOQgmtkO34kJVoBBdPP7DCxCyUs-coNMm70xgBJg64M6MJK1ZsgA3Njpkmsj_3V4bzAvIB5gHfEbQ,&typo=1>
 (172.87.34.1) 148 msec *  220 msec

Tracing the route to 172.87.34.1
VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
  1 
96-95-79-62-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://96-95-79-62-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net&c=E,1,sNqVce2uAPhqogMSJ6ICjEZ6oKeaT4J5vdHj7qQAhqiwuH6y8-hjv_LWM1O9zW4ueqVKkOIs8FtVEky5IOTiu0A0aCG86dQWZoRZKTYP6LqIEiG-r968jDU,&typo=1>
 (96.95.79.62) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
  2 96.120.28.97 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
  3 be92-sur02.stjoseph.mi.sbend.comcast.net (68.85.204.29) 8 msec 12 msec 12 
msec
  4 68.85.183.237 12 msec 8 msec 8 msec
  5 be-126-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net (68.87.230.249) 12 msec 16 msec 16 
msec
  6  *  *  *
  7  *  *  *
  8 
LYNX-NETWOR.ear3.Chicago2.Level3.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://LYNX-NETWOR.ear3.Chicago2.Level3.net&c=E,1,A9YvfSwg2cc4y0prRHCtTjFkNpW74klxPfBui53WumpjBfHJPRyCj3BJFpyYkNhXPH5QvewGFBrsfhMvJXjiL5IwzP3Ezds5BUuaug,,&typo=1>
 (4.35.108.250) 20 msec 16 msec 16 msec
  9 
66.35.87.172.in-addr.arpa.lynxnetworkgroup.com<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://66.35.87.172.in-addr.arpa.lynxnetworkgroup.com&c=E,1,kXLeVSEgqyqPak2JP8c8bh3tml2ISK-ir5XBPpebVWMaxSSbAGbxEBhR-9kiXnIVq7Kv0KVdk8VpF3o30p3Cn4yScA2NqVelosXMU4Y,&typo=1>
 (172.87.35.66) 16 msec 28 msec 20 msec
10  *  *  *
11  *  *  *


Tracing the route to 172.87.34.1
VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
  1 
173-15-238-74-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://173-15-238-74-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net&c=E,1,O_E4PxXmKYuMcAhMXD6gjUWOFtgCNWVrSL-umAYMAurWyzGEdh30knO6P_wUXHaTZj1_x0r-9eaTjlrtbZiHUw30WoVgpFoQp3Fcp1eV95FGt6lcZHlgyJHX&typo=1>
 (173.15.238.74) 0 msec 4 msec 4 msec
  2 96.120.42.165 16 msec 16 msec 16 msec
  3 68.85.49.133 16 msec 12 msec 12 msec
  4 xe-0-0-0-0-sur01.stclairshors.mi.michigan.comcast.net (68.87.189.38) 16 
msec 12 msec 12 msec
  5 te-0-3-0-15-ar02.pontiac.mi.michigan.comcast.net (68.85.235.249) 20 msec 20 
msec 16 msec
  6 
ae2.bar1.detroit1.level3.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://ae2.bar1.detroit1.level3.net&c=E,1,C1WUZjUdFRQMEUCj_27wiWn8zTmrQDk_Iq60VqJSR5AqCFCRkfCCgEEHZ5TYYyBOlxAkjSrLMZgL_a0PNhiP7KMAL_BNin_r49EaA9OW90Vr&typo=1>
 (4.68.71.33) 44 msec 20 msec 16 msec
  7  *  *  *
  8 
lynx-networ.ear3.chicago2.level3.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://lynx-networ.ear3.chicago2.level3.net&c=E,1,lqBRUMWD4B3q8U8gCPCJQhLWJbT6xXYNMp1JYoaffXZgtHcoyoGyf0epxcudVIcdv6aapj8mrVyRr2W1jJ2yxlW7A-uIgOYWdYWiHLxxGprwRTXFSE7GGA,,&typo=1>
 (4.35.108.250) 24 msec 32 msec 28 msec
  9 
66.35.87.172.in-addr.arpa.lynxnetworkgroup.com<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://66.35.87.172.in-addr.arpa.lynxnetworkgroup.com&c=E,1,hmmq0QFsFnVzOxps-7iTgl9pVzFXuFsNpp4zqxoEO7wn1oUWmQJzYR7WRPBOXusFsVW2YBJAuyHg8KnGU-w318ioyuXR8a7WB-UqicpeR7p_WBFq5aZ_xpE,&typo=1>
 (172.87.34.1) 32 msec *  32 msec


Now, this morning we're seeing an inability to pass two-way traffic over 
CenturyLink through Chicago:

  1   23ms    23ms    24ms    63.149.1.22
  2   *       *       *
  3   23ms    23ms    23ms    63.146.27.18
  4   *       *       *
  5   28ms    29ms    29ms    4.35.108.250
  6   35ms    28ms    29ms    172.87.34.1


Tracing the route to 63.149.1.22
VRF info: (vrf in name/id, vrf out name/id)
  1 172.87.35.66 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  2 
6-2-40.ear3.chicago2.level3.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://6-2-40.ear3.chicago2.level3.net&c=E,1,bQwKL6_R3ZpzT-p5vodvIDshnb4XzpklrQ7IiX-fmze32vrAHYOkbgg_0ELRriLm13c62OP67INYb1H_4Hu-q2o6ZHUUh54IgvFbHEMpL1k,&typo=1>
 (4.35.108.249) 34 msec 0 msec 0 msec
  3 
ae-14-3604.edge4.chicago3.level3.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://ae-14-3604.edge4.chicago3.level3.net&c=E,1,DJtHkO_-u9lL4VH9EiXgJk2mR-OU-2sAxZ_hjy5LAVBAlQ83gahXNjGR5jsLAjdCG9XffqbSvv4DURg83jKb_f2s-vH67btLLI5YvNfwAMUcYRs1zIk1lFU2&typo=1>
 (4.69.204.166) 8 msec 9 msec 8 msec
  4 
chp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://chp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net&c=E,1,1U4xzmJx3Dnr_UZ7SFMLrpNcjToJu0EbPy4QINiRxdVEYNby6-cqx8lYm0c0dgtWt1aLPQLNuWFtCcD5p4qn0iw2534t314Au8CNWTMuhJ2S&typo=1>
 (63.146.27.17) 9 msec 8 msec 8 msec
 5 
cer-edge-15.inet.qwest.net<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://cer-edge-15.inet.qwest.net&c=E,1,RCbzcVO0dNWlB3zVOEg357IMxGJyB0ZtY8gVoH3_5J1POuIE54yF2qEE3bkmW_SSCihpHQljVsxfr1yveXKR38vuqefruWFYb5l3JP0ZyaFFNpY-xhE,&typo=1>
 (205.171.93.26) 9 msec 8 msec 9 msec
  6 63.149.1.22 33 msec 34 msec *


Comcast appears blind to the issues we've been seeing at their edge.  Seems 
more like a Level 3 issue.  What's going on in Chicago lately?


--
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[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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