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On Nov 20, 2018, at 9:53 AM, Ken Matlock via Outages 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

If only there was a discussion list, to discuss what is and is not on topic for 
the outages mailing list.  If it were me, I'd name it outages-discussion. ;-)

Ken

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 8:47 AM Christopher Conley via Outages 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
“Also, it’s worth pointing out that the by-chatter on this issue has generated 
ten times the traffic that the original notification did. If a notification 
isn’t useful to you in particular, surely you can let it go by without comment.”

But if you just ignore it like a reasonable person, other people wouldn’t know 
that they’re being wrong on the Internet! We can’t let that happen, Rob. We 
must be vigilant in our gatekeeping.


Christopher Conley
Systems Administrator |  Fors Marsh Group
Arlington, VA 22203

From: Outages <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
On Behalf Of Rob Repp via Outages
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:33 AM
To: Otto, Doug <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [outages] facebook slow

Agreed. For example, we’re an educational setting, and it’s in common use for 
community communications here. Also, it’s worth pointing out that the 
by-chatter on this issue has generated ten times the traffic that the original 
notification did. If a notification isn’t useful to you in particular, surely 
you can let it go by without comment.
Tks,
R.

Rob Repp
Network Administrator
Winnetka Public Schools District 36
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847.501.2848 (w)
847.274.0860 (m)

"Conatus es pausa et denuo initus?"


On Nov 20, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Otto, Doug via Outages 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Whether Facebook is or isn’t business critical depends on the nature of the 
business. If it’s not important to you, ignore the email. What’s so hard about 
that?


From: Outages <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
on behalf of "Ferullo, Michael J. via Outages" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: "Ferullo, Michael J." 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 8:25 AM
To: 'Steven McCrory' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 'Mike 
Bolitho' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "'[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>'" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [outages] facebook slow

Also much in agreement here. I signed up for this list for exactly what Mike 
stated: meaningful business critical services. I’d suggest someone spearhead 
the creation of another list for anything “social media” related.



Michael J. Ferullo
Systems Administrator
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From: Outages <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
On Behalf Of Steven McCrory via Outages
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:23 AM
To: 'Mike Bolitho' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [outages] facebook slow

Wholeheartedly agree

From: Outages <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
On Behalf Of Mike Bolitho via Outages
Sent: 20 November 2018 15:18
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [outages] facebook slow

I would encourage everyone to revisit the info page for the outages mailing 
list found here: https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages

"The purpose of this list is to have a central place to lookup and report so 
that end users & network operators know why their services (e-mail, phones, 
etc) went down eliminating the need to open tons of trouble tickets during a 
major event. One master ticket - such as fiber cut affect xxx OC48's would 
suffice. We hope this would empower users and network operators to post such 
events so that everyone could benefit from it. "

The list is for reporting outages on carrier networks and has grown to cloud 
services (AWS, Azure) as those have expanded. Facebook is not a provider of any 
meaningful business critical services, and therefore does not fit in this forum.

- Mike Bolitho


On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 7:57 AM Mike Hammett via Outages 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Facebook is a fairly commonly used service.

Also, it's currently broken and has been so for about an hour.


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From: "Tanner Ryan via Outages" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "jimmy keffer" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:50:40 AM
Subject: Re: [outages] facebook slow

I don’t see the point of sending this in the outages mailing list.


Best,
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