+1 to this. L3 does not prioritize PING and their routers will frequently
show this, as long as it doesn't persist through the rest of the hops to
the end it's meaningless.

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 6:35 PM Ross Tajvar via Outages <[email protected]>
wrote:

> A reminder to all who haven't to review this presentation on interpreting
> traceroutes:
>
> https://archive.nanog.org/meetings/nanog47/presentations/Sunday/RAS_Traceroute_N47_Sun.pdf
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 6:11 PM Hugo Slabbert via Outages <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> At hop 9 in your trace?
>>
>> 9. lag-82.ear2.Chicago2.Level3.net
>>  72.7%    45   25.9  28.3  24.5  48.5   7.1
>> 10. ???
>> 11. ARMSTRONG-U.ear3.Washington1.Level3.net
>>     0.0%    45   43.5  44.5  37.6 154.2  23.2
>>
>> There is no loss on subsequent hops; is there a reason why drops in the
>> middle of the trace are a problem?  Are there points past
>> ARMSTRONG-U.ear3.Washington1.Level3.net / 4.14.224.174 that are also
>> experiencing issues?
>>
>>
>> Hugo Slabbert
>>
>> Network Engineer
>>
>> Demonware Inc, 700 - 369 Terminal Avenue, Vancouver, BC V6A 4C4, Canada
>>
>> www.demonware.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:04 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The 80% packet loss.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 5:58 PM Hugo Slabbert <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The second trace from Josh Luthman completes without issue I mean; for
>>>> the first it doesn't complete but shows consistent latency and no loss to
>>>> the hop past the highlighted one(s).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hugo Slabbert
>>>>
>>>> Network Engineer
>>>>
>>>> Demonware Inc, 700 - 369 Terminal Avenue, Vancouver, BC V6A 4C4, Canada
>>>>
>>>> www.demonware.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 2:57 PM Hugo Slabbert <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What's the issue? The trace completes just fine and latency and loss
>>>>> do not persist past that intermediate hop.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hugo Slabbert
>>>>>
>>>>> Network Engineer
>>>>>
>>>>> Demonware Inc, 700 - 369 Terminal Avenue, Vancouver, BC V6A 4C4, Canada
>>>>>
>>>>> www.demonware.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:13 PM Josh Luthman via Outages <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like we're seeing this as well.  This is a Spectrum DIA circuit
>>>>>> in Troy, OH.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Host
>>>>>>      Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
>>>>>>  1. 10.10.10.1
>>>>>>        0.0%    46    1.1   2.9   1.1  61.5   8.9
>>>>>>  2. fwbb-192-149-254-1.inxnet.net
>>>>>>         0.0%    46    1.3   4.0   1.1  41.3   7.8
>>>>>>  3. fwb-74-218-88-129.inxnet.net
>>>>>>        0.0%    46    1.7  12.0   1.6 122.8  26.6
>>>>>>  4. network-065-189-190-191.bcs.neo.rr.com
>>>>>>        0.0%    46    3.8  20.2   2.1 149.2  33.0
>>>>>>  5. be39.gmtwoh0501r.midwest.rr.com
>>>>>>         0.0%    46    9.8  14.0   9.6 119.0  16.9
>>>>>>  6. be12.blasohdp01r.midwest.rr.com
>>>>>>         0.0%    46   11.4  18.9   9.5 128.5  21.8
>>>>>>  7. be28.clmkohpe01r.midwest.rr.com
>>>>>>         0.0%    45   12.8  16.6   8.5 107.0  16.2
>>>>>>  8. 107.14.17.252
>>>>>>       0.0%    45   25.8  29.1  19.0 129.4  22.7
>>>>>>  9. lag-82.ear2.Chicago2.Level3.net
>>>>>>        72.7%    45   25.9  28.3  24.5  48.5   7.1
>>>>>> 10. ???
>>>>>> 11. ARMSTRONG-U.ear3.Washington1.Level3.net
>>>>>>         0.0%    45   43.5  44.5  37.6 154.2  23.2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 11:03 AM Biddle, Josh via Outages <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seeing a traffic issue ingress to North Eastern PA from OH and KY on
>>>>>>> the Spectrum network. Reported issue to Spectrum but no details yet. 
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> started yesterday morning 8/27. Anyone else seeing these issues?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2  142.254.147.241 20 msec 20 msec 10 msec 20 msec 20 msec 10 msec
>>>>>>> 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3  74.128.8.57 20 msec 20 msec 10 msec 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec 20
>>>>>>> msec 20 msec 20 msec 10 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4  65.29.31.60 30 msec 20 msec 30 msec 30 msec 30 msec 30 msec 20
>>>>>>> msec 30 msec 20 msec 40 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5  65.189.140.166 30 msec 50 msec 30 msec 40 msec 40 msec 40 msec 40
>>>>>>> msec 40 msec 50 msec 40 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6  66.109.6.70 50 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     66.109.6.66 50 msec 40 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     66.109.6.70 50 msec 50 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     66.109.6.66 40 msec 50 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     66.109.6.70 50 msec 40 msec 40 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7  107.14.19.65 40 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     107.14.19.160 50 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     66.109.6.167 40 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     107.14.19.65 40 msec 40 msec 40 msec 40 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     66.109.6.167 40 msec 50 msec 50 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8   *  *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     66.109.7.162 730 msec 580 msec *  *  *  700 msec 600 msec 590
>>>>>>> msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 9   *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 10 4.14.224.174 50 msec 50 msec 50 msec 70 msec 50 msec 50 msec 50
>>>>>>> msec 60 msec 50 msec 60 msec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 11  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 12  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 13  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 14      *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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