This belongs on the discussion list and not on the Outages list. On Feb 9, 2022, 11:38 AM -0700, Grant Taylor via Outages <[email protected]>, wrote: > On 2/8/22 11:46 PM, Mark Tinka via Outages wrote: > > You mean like PMTUd, and such :-)? > > Not what I originally meant, but sure. > > > We probably won't get that one back, and unless we do something, > > inability to ping 8.8.8.8 will result in unnecessary NOC tickets > > claiming "the Internet is down". > > Probably some, for a while. (See more below.) > > > Yes, this helps Google not having to deal with the problem, but it > > passes the burden both to the ISP who has to explain why the Internet is > > now down, and to some other online service who now has to sink ping > > traffic. Perhaps Yahoo will pick that priviledge up again, like they did > > back in the day :-(... > > So ... an end user education issue. > > - No, the Internet is not down. > - The specific test you are doing is (now) bad (for reasons). > - See how your $StreamingServiceVideo is still playing? -- Did you > receive the test email I just sent you? > > The Internet is /up/. > > Who should be responsible for an ISP's user base? I'd naively think > that the ISP should be responsible for their own user base. Why should > we foist this responsibility off onto another organization? > > > > -- > Grant. . . . > unix || die > > > _______________________________________________ > Outages mailing list > [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages
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