Yeah, in talking with folks here in France it seems that everything got routed 
around, albeit with some higher latencies in some cases.

> On Jul 30, 2024, at 18:27, Jay Ashworth <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Based on the comments in those messages, apparently the locations on the 
> internet cabling were not selected carefully enough.
> 
> "...and routes around it."
> 
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> 
> 
> On July 30, 2024 12:18:17 PM EDT, Bill Woodcock via Outages 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Also, from Rudolf:
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: "Rudolf van der Berg" <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [net-econ] Attack on French vital infrastructures
>> Date: July 30, 2024 at 14:10:48 GMT+2
>> To: [email protected]
>> Resent-From: [email protected]
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> 
>> A quick copy paste from something I wrote on a Dutch site. Google translated 
>> it 
>> 
>> Update: photos of broken cables 
>> https://x.com/nguillam/status/1817870929520677023
>> 
>> A better source is Numerama. They also link to a number of twitter accounts 
>> of serious people in the French internet world who know what's going on. 
>> https://www.numerama.com/...-sur-votre-connexion.html
>> 
>> The affected cables are in 6 areas across the country: 11 (Aude), 34 
>> (Hérault), 51 (Marne), 55 (Meuse), 13 (Bouches du Rhône) and 84 (Vaucluse). 
>> They seem to be mainly cables from the French operator SFR, which other 
>> operators, such as Free, OVH, Bouygues also use. The social effects seem to 
>> be limited. The traffic seems to be rerouted. The alternative route is 
>> sometimes not ideal, for example there are traceroutes that show that OVH to 
>> Orange seems to run via Singapore. 
>> https://x.com/BoolKiRool/status/1817819378395570206
>> 
>> Downdetector does show that there is an impact, but it does not seem that 
>> large banks and other social services have been badly affected.
>> 
>> Something similar happened 2 years ago, but the locations are not the same. 
>> There were speculations at the time that it could have been extremists 
>> (left/right), union members or angry employees. It remains unclear who they 
>> really were. So I would not dare to speculate now about who did this. In any 
>> case, France has often seen strange sabotage of telecom infrastructure, 
>> sometimes done by competing technicians from telcos! Monks have even been 
>> arrested for setting fire to masts.
>> 
>> (I know some people in the French Internet scene and have been in contact 
>> with them about this)
>> 
>> Op di 30 jul 2024 om 09:15 schreef Jaap van Till via groups.io 
>> <[email protected]>:
>> Dear all, 
>> 
>> Not only the high speed TGV train infrastructure was attacked by fires ? at 
>> several places at the same time, claimed by extreme leftwing people. But 
>> also certain carefully selected optic fiber cables where cut all over France.
>> Not much was published about that though. In the press they only mentioned 
>> that in certain “departements”(provinces) Internet access was unavailable, 
>> but that it worked fine in Paris region.
>> I hope this habit will not spread among political activists, because it can 
>> endanger lives.
>> 
>> My focus is on “Creating Value by Combining” 🧐😊🤓😁 Van Till’s Law :
>> 4th Networking Effect: V= N! Value created by Cooperation = N unique 
>> contributors, Factorial. ( Multiplication of shared value).
>> 
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