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On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 1:09 PM Shaun Potts via Outages <[email protected]> wrote: > i find it *really **really *hard to believe that you or your org doesn't > use AD, or GitHub, or any external service that interfaces with > Entra/AAD/whatever microsoft has named it this month, or <you name it here> > but if that's the case, good on you. other cloud providers have outages > too, just as bad, and in the grand scheme of things just as frequently, > just not recently. > > also worth saying, crowdstrike still wasn't a microsoft issue, aside from > being the affected platform. crowdstrike has caused kernel panics on linux > machines too *shrug* > > anyways, not looking to get into a nerd fight with someone who has > realistically done a lot for the world's internet infrastructure, > > it always just really saddens me when i see people in prestigious > positions in tech taking positions like this, which are really below people > in their station. i guess i would just say try to put on a better face as > someone people in tech should be looking up to instead of gaining internet > points by batting at low-hanging fruit when a major provider has a major > outage. > > next time layer3 or akamai or <insert backbone provider here> has a major > outage, would you quickly jump to go "haha, not affected here either!" or > are you just letting personal bias get in the way of rational discourse? > > my $0.02 > > (p.s. neither of the companies i work for or make technical decisions for > have a huge foot in microsoft tech either, this is just me being purely > objective) > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 12:49 PM Bill Woodcock <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> > On Jul 30, 2024, at 18:37, Shaun Potts <[email protected]> wrote: >> > right because no vendor any of us use has interdependencies with >> microsoft services >> >> That was exactly my point. Some people make choices which prove to have >> Microsoft dependencies, some don’t. It’s a choice. Some people make it >> each way. Then Microsoft has yet another outage, as they VERY FREQUENTLY >> do, and somehow, some people are surprised, all over again. But it was >> their choice. Some people try to convince themselves that Microsoft is in >> the “death and taxes” category. This is just your reminder that it’s not, >> it’s in the “self harm/own-goal” category. If you were affected, AGAIN, >> you could make other choices, and join the camp that doesn’t have anything >> to complain about when Microsoft has an outage AGAIN. >> >> Admittedly, I was a bit worried at first when I saw airlines complaining >> about the Crowdstrike/Microsoft outage, but my travel was all on United, >> and it turned out that they hadn’t made the mistake of using either >> anywhere critical, just on kiosk display stuff. So, good for them, though >> it would be better if they didn’t flirt with these kinds of risks at all, >> since they seemingly propagate when people aren’t paying attention. >> >> -Bill >> >> _______________________________________________ > Outages mailing list > [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages >
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