On Thursday, October 11, 2001, at 07:03  AM, Remy Davison wrote:

>> Unlike the SE/30 it lacks both the PDS slot and the ridiculous RAM
>> capacity, but is otherwise the same I think. Ok, maybe the SE/30 also
>> wins on prestige value too.
> The Classic II does have a PDS - only it's an LC PDS, but ethernet cards
> for it are easier to come by cheaply.

I have heard this of the Classic II a few times.  Literature seems to 
indicate of it, but the only expansion socket on either of my ClassicIIs 
is the FPU slot - which is not an LC PDS.  Anyone got one with the card 
in it I could get a pic of?  Perhaps its a non-US machine thing?

> The quality of (probably pre-Amelio, maybe pre-Jobs II) Macs was
> incredible. It's still good, just not what it was. Mostly because of
> contracting out, I guess (also making everything - well, portables, that
> is) - thin and light means they're just more fragile.

I'd say it would be Amelio.  He was the guy known for cost-cutting.

> Take the Portable (please). You could clock a burglar with that one and
> it'd still boot and do your tax return.

A dude in Sweden got a Titanium and drove a 1.7 tonne car over it.  
Screen was smashed, but booted using the external VGA monitor, internal 
keyboard/trackpad etc.  I know of a place that when they get their 
laptops in they throw them out a window.  if they break they send them 
back and blame UPS.  The Macs they do from the third storey to "even the 
competition".  They still make em like they used to :)

Peace
Aqua


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