> On 23 Jul 2026, at 3:35 PM, Dumitru Ceara <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 7/23/26 11:27 AM, Naveen Yerramneni wrote:
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>>> On 20 Jul 2026, at 7:34 PM, Dumitru Ceara <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> On 7/14/26 10:21 AM, Naveen Yerramneni wrote:
>>>> A Network Function (NF) in inline mode redirects matched traffic
>>>> through a service VM.  When the redirected traffic is IP
>>>> unknown-unicast (destination MAC not yet in the FDB), the packet
>>>> coming back from the NF is re-flooded by the switch, because the
>>>> destination MAC is still unknown.  That re-flood produces a copy on
>>>> the same port the packet originally arrived on, causing MAC flaps and
>>>> potential L2 loops.
>>>> 
>>>> Following are the example packet flows.
>>>> 
>>>> Example 1, VLAN switch (MAC flap):
>>>> 
>>>> Topology
>>>>   VM1, VM2 and the NF are on the same logical switch (LS), which is
>>>>   VLAN-backed (localnet port on every node).  VM1 is on N1, VM2 on
>>>>   N2 (its port has "unknown" in addresses and a to-lport ACL that
>>>>   redirects to the inline NF on N3).
>>>> 
>>>> Flow
>>>>   1. VM1 sends pkt to dst MAC X (not in FDB).
>>>>   2. The LS floods the pkt; on N1 the copy exits the localnet port
>>>>      and the TOR floods it to N2.
>>>>   3. On N2 the pkt ingresses on localnet; the LS floods it and the
>>>>      copy reaches VM2 (unknown-addr).
>>>>   4. The ACL redirects the pkt to the NF on N3; the NF returns it
>>>>      to N2.
>>>>   5. X is still not in the FDB, so the LS floods again; on N2 one
>>>>      copy exits the localnet port.
>>>> 
>>>> Result
>>>>   The TOR now sees VM1's source MAC on N2's port, but it had just
>>>>   learned VM1's MAC on N1's port, so the MAC flaps on the TOR.
>>>> 
>>>> Example 2, VLAN switch with two protected VMs (loop):
>>>> 
>>>> Topology
>>>>   As above, plus VM3 (on N3, same LS) also has "unknown" in
>>>>   addresses and is also NF-protected.
>>>> 
>>>> Flow
>>>>   1-5 as above; in parallel, the original flood also reaches N3 via
>>>>       the TOR, where it is redirected to N3's NF, returns, and the
>>>>       LS re-floods it out N3's localnet port.
>>>>   6. N3's re-flood reaches N2 via the TOR; the LS floods it on N2,
>>>>      the copy hits VM2 (unknown-addr), is redirected to the NF, and
>>>>      re-floods out N2's localnet port.
>>>>   7. That re-flood reaches N3 via the TOR; the LS floods it on N3,
>>>>      the copy hits VM3 (also unknown-addr), is redirected to the
>>>>      NF, re-floods out localnet, ...
>>>> 
>>>> Result
>>>>   The pkt keeps bouncing between N2 and N3 via the TOR, i.e. an
>>>>   L2 loop, on top of continuous MAC flaps.  The loop persists as
>>>>   long as X stays unknown.
>>>> 
>>>> Example 3, overlay switch (copy reflected to source port):
>>>> 
>>>> Topology
>>>>   VM1, VM2 and the NF are on the same LS and all on N1.  VM1 and
>>>>   VM2 both have "unknown" in addresses; VM2's to-lport ACL
>>>>   redirects to the inline NF.
>>>> 
>>>> Flow
>>>>   1. VM1 sends pkt to dst MAC X (not in FDB).
>>>>   2. The LS floods to MC_UNKNOWN members on N1; one copy goes to
>>>>      VM2.
>>>>   3. VM2's ACL redirects its copy to the NF; the NF returns it to
>>>>      N1.
>>>>   4. X is still not in the FDB, so the LS floods to MC_UNKNOWN
>>>>      again; one copy is headed back out VM1's own port.
>>>> 
>>>> Result
>>>>   VM1 receives a copy of the packet it just sent (reflected to the
>>>>   source port).
>>>> 
>>>> Fix:
>>>> 
>>>> Use the nf_learn_orig_src_port() / nf_lookup_orig_src_port() actions
>>>> from the previous commit to remember the original ingress port and
>>>> drop the copy if it is about to be sent back out of that port.
>>>> 
>>>> - Add a logical flag flags.inport_in_mc_unknown (bit 26) that
>>>>   marks packets entering on an MC_UNKNOWN-member port (i.e. one
>>>>   with "unknown" in addresses and receive_multicast not disabled,
>>>>   the only ports that can both originate and receive
>>>>   unknown-unicast floods).  northd sets it in ls_in_lookup_fdb,
>>>>   piggybacking on the existing FDB-learn or flags.localnet flow
>>>>   where possible, and emits a dedicated priority-50 flow for the
>>>>   remaining MC_UNKNOWN members (ex: ports where
>>>>   lsp_learn_fdb=false).
>>>> 
>>>> - In the NF redirect stage (ls_in_nf for a from-lport ACL,
>>>>   ls_out_nf for a to-lport ACL), on a switch with an inline NF group
>>>>   on an ACL, learn the original ingress port
>>>>   (nf_learn_orig_src_port()) for unicast IP packets that entered on
>>>>   an MC_UNKNOWN-member port (flags.inport_in_mc_unknown set).  The
>>>>   flag is set in ls_in_lookup_fdb and carried in MFF_LOG_FLAGS into
>>>>   the egress pipeline, so it is still available in ls_out_nf.  Two
>>>>   flows per IP version:
>>>>   * Priority 100: learn, then redirect to the NF, when the ACL
>>>>     selected the packet for redirect.  The existing NF-port and
>>>>     multicast skip flows move up to priority 110 so multicast is
>>>>     skipped before this flow, which therefore needs no !eth.mcast
>>>>     match.
>>>>   * Priority 50 (overlay switches only, in ls_in_nf): learn, then
>>>>     continue to the next stage, when the ACL did not redirect the
>>>>     packet (REGBIT_NF_ENABLED == 0).  On an overlay switch the
>>>>     redirecting port and the source port can be on different nodes,
>>>>     so the priority-100 learn would land on a different node than
>>>>     the lookup; learning here, on the source port's own ingress
>>>>     node, keeps them co-located.  VLAN-backed switches do not need
>>>>     this: the re-flood returns to the redirecting node, where the
>>>>     priority-100 learn already ran.
>>>> 
>>>> - On the post-NF return path run
>>>>   REGBIT_NF_LOOKUP_HIT = nf_lookup_orig_src_port() on both NF
>>>>   ports.  The existing ls_out_pre_acl skip-stages flow does it for
>>>>   the input_port (priority bumped 110->115 to win over the
>>>>   priority-110 conntrack skip flow); a new priority-2 flow in
>>>>   ls_out_nf does it for the output_port (packets redirected from
>>>>   the ingress pipeline, e.g. a from-lport request re-flooded after
>>>>   the NF, doing a fresh egress after conntrack).
>>>> 
>>>> - A new priority-110 flow in ls_out_check_port_sec drops packets
>>>>   with REGBIT_NF_LOOKUP_HIT == 1, i.e. the copies about to be
>>>>   sent back out of the port they originally arrived on.
>>>> 
>>>> On VLAN-backed switches the re-flood returns to the redirecting node
>>>> and egresses the shared localnet port, so the learn and the lookup
>>>> always run on that node: dropping the copy headed back out that port
>>>> removes both the MAC flap and the underlay L2 loop.
>>>> 
>>>> On overlay switches the copy headed back to the source port is always
>>>> dropped, as in example 3: the learn runs on the source port's ingress
>>>> and the lookup on its egress, both on the source port's node.
>>>> 
>>>> All new flows are gated on the switch having an inline NF group on
>>>> an ACL.
>>>> 
>>>> Signed-off-by: Naveen Yerramneni <[email protected]>
>>>> Acked-by: Aditya Mehakare <[email protected]>
>>>> Fixes: 8e2d6fa14804 ("northd, tests: Network Function insertion logical 
>>>> flow programming.")
>>>> CC: Sragdhara Datta Chaudhuri <[email protected]>
>>>> Assisted-by: Claude Opus 4.7, Cursor
>>>> ---
>>> 
>>> Hi Naveen,
>>> 
>>>> NEWS                         |   3 +
>>>> include/ovn/logical-fields.h |   9 +
>>>> lib/logical-fields.c         |   5 +
>>>> northd/northd.c              | 257 ++++++++++++++++++-----
>>>> northd/northd.h              |  19 ++
>>>> ovn-sb.xml                   |   8 +
>>>> tests/ovn-northd.at          | 393 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
>>>> tests/ovn.at                 | 114 +++++++++-
>>>> 8 files changed, 690 insertions(+), 118 deletions(-)
>>>> 
>>>> diff --git a/NEWS b/NEWS
>>>> index 384e30820..9a7f03f19 100644
>>>> --- a/NEWS
>>>> +++ b/NEWS
>>>> @@ -68,6 +68,9 @@ Post v26.03.0
>>>>     (type 11) and Parameter Problem (type 12) - generated by an external
>>>>     router are un-NATed correctly.  This makes Path MTU discovery and
>>>>     traceroute work through stateless NAT.
>>>> +   - Fixed MAC flaps and L2 loops caused by inline Network_Function
>>>> +     redirection of unknown-unicast IP traffic, where the copy returning
>>>> +     from the NF could be re-flooded out of the original ingress port.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is arguably a bug fix, it doesn't really need a NEWS item.  OTOH,
>>> if we ever need to backport this we need to ensure that northd doesn't
>>> use the new actions if not all ovn-controller are running an updated
>>> version.  I presume your goal is to just fix this behavior on versions
>>>> = 26.09.0.
>>> 
>>>> OVN v26.03.0 - xxx xx xxxx
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> diff --git a/include/ovn/logical-fields.h b/include/ovn/logical-fields.h
>>>> index b2f1af64a..e3dddd0c4 100644
>>>> --- a/include/ovn/logical-fields.h
>>>> +++ b/include/ovn/logical-fields.h
>>>> @@ -141,6 +141,7 @@ enum mff_log_flags_bits {
>>>>    MLF_RECIRC_BIT = 24,
>>>>    MLF_EVPN_LOOKUP_BIT = 25,
>>>>    MLF_NF_LOOKUP_HIT_BIT = 26,
>>>> +    MLF_INPORT_IN_MC_UNKNOWN_BIT = 27,
>>>>    MLF_NETWORK_ID_START_BIT = 28,
>>>>    MLF_NETWORK_ID_END_BIT = 31,
>>>> };
>>>> @@ -226,6 +227,14 @@ enum mff_log_flags {
>>>>     * MAC flaps / L2 loops after network function redirection. */
>>>>    MLF_NF_LOOKUP_HIT = (1 << MLF_NF_LOOKUP_HIT_BIT),
>>>> 
>>>> +    /* Indicate that the packet entered the logical switch on a port that
>>>> +     * is a member of MC_UNKNOWN (i.e. the port has "unknown" in its
>>>> +     * addresses and "receive_multicast" is not disabled, so it can both
>>>> +     * receive and originate unknown-unicast floods).  Used by the inline
>>>> +     * network function loop prevention to learn the original source port
>>>> +     * before redirection. */
>>>> +    MLF_INPORT_IN_MC_UNKNOWN = (1 << MLF_INPORT_IN_MC_UNKNOWN_BIT),
>>>> +
>>>>    /* Assign network ID to packet to choose correct network for snat when
>>>>     * lb_force_snat_ip=router_ip. */
>>>>    MLF_NETWORK_ID = (OVN_MAX_NETWORK_ID << MLF_NETWORK_ID_START_BIT),
>>>> diff --git a/lib/logical-fields.c b/lib/logical-fields.c
>>>> index 35d9a2e22..8295d71f4 100644
>>>> --- a/lib/logical-fields.c
>>>> +++ b/lib/logical-fields.c
>>>> @@ -188,6 +188,11 @@ ovn_init_symtab(struct shash *symtab)
>>>>    snprintf(flags_str, sizeof flags_str, "flags[%d]", MLF_PKT_SAMPLED_BIT);
>>>>    expr_symtab_add_subfield(symtab, "flags.pkt_sampled", NULL, flags_str);
>>>> 
>>>> +    snprintf(flags_str, sizeof flags_str, "flags[%d]",
>>>> +             MLF_INPORT_IN_MC_UNKNOWN_BIT);
>>>> +    expr_symtab_add_subfield(symtab, "flags.inport_in_mc_unknown", NULL,
>>>> +                             flags_str);
>>>> +
>>>>    /* Connection tracking state. */
>>>>    expr_symtab_add_field_scoped(symtab, "ct_mark", MFF_CT_MARK, NULL, 
>>>> false,
>>>>                                 WR_CT_COMMIT);
>>>> diff --git a/northd/northd.c b/northd/northd.c
>>>> index 3a4afa063..65ed1edaf 100644
>>>> --- a/northd/northd.c
>>>> +++ b/northd/northd.c
>>>> @@ -176,6 +176,10 @@ static bool vxlan_mode;
>>>> #define REGBIT_NF_ENABLED         "reg8[21]"
>>>> #define REGBIT_NF_ORIG_DIR        "reg8[22]"
>>>> #define REGBIT_NF_EGRESS_LOOPBACK "reg8[23]"
>>>> +/* Set when a packet returning from an inline network function is about to
>>>> + * be sent back out of the port it originally arrived on; such loopback
>>>> + * copies are dropped. */
>>>> +#define REGBIT_NF_LOOKUP_HIT      "reg8[24]"
>>>> /* Register to store the network function group id */
>>>> #define REG_NF_GROUP_ID           "reg0[22..29]"
>>>> /* REG_NF_ID overrides REG_NF_GROUP_ID in the pre_network_function stage. 
>>>> */
>>>> @@ -315,6 +319,8 @@ static const char *reg_ct_state[] = {
>>>> * |    | REGBIT_NF_{ENABLED/ORIG_DIR/                 | G |                
>>>>                    |
>>>> * |    |            EGRESS_LOOPBACK}                  | 4 |                
>>>>                    |
>>>> * |    |       (>= ACL_EVAL* && <= NF*)               |   |                
>>>>                    |
>>>> + * |    | REGBIT_NF_LOOKUP_HIT                         |   |              
>>>>                      |
>>>> + * |    |     (>= OUT_PRE_ACL && <= OUT_CHECK_PORT_SEC)|   |              
>>>>                      |
>>>> * +----+----------------------------------------------+   
>>>> +-----------------------------------+
>>>> * | R9 |              OBS_POINT_ID_EST                |   |                
>>>>                    |
>>>> * |    |       (>= ACL_EVAL* && <= ACL_ACTION*)       |   |                
>>>>                    |
>>>> @@ -6386,6 +6392,19 @@ build_lswitch_port_sec_op(struct ovn_port *op, 
>>>> struct lflow_table *lflows,
>>>>    }
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> +/* True if 'op' emits the FDB-learn (LOOKUP_FDB / PUT_FDB) flows. */
>>>> +static bool
>>>> +lsp_emits_fdb_learn_lflow(const struct ovn_port *op)
>>>> +{
>>>> +    if (op->lsp_has_port_sec || !op->has_unknown) {
>>>> +        return false;
>>>> +    }
>>>> +    return lsp_is_remote(op->nbsp)
>>>> +        || (!strcmp(op->nbsp->type, "") && lsp_can_learn_mac(op->nbsp))
>>>> +        || lsp_is_switch(op->nbsp)
>>>> +        || (lsp_is_localnet(op->nbsp) && 
>>>> localnet_can_learn_mac(op->nbsp));
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> static void
>>>> build_lswitch_learn_fdb_op(
>>>>    struct ovn_port *op, struct lflow_table *lflows,
>>>> @@ -6393,36 +6412,35 @@ build_lswitch_learn_fdb_op(
>>>> {
>>>>    ovs_assert(op->nbsp);
>>>> 
>>>> -    if (op->lsp_has_port_sec || !op->has_unknown) {
>>>> +    if (!lsp_emits_fdb_learn_lflow(op)) {
>>>>        return;
>>>>    }
>>>> 
>>>>    bool remote = lsp_is_remote(op->nbsp);
>>>> 
>>>> -    if (remote || (!strcmp(op->nbsp->type, "") && 
>>>> lsp_can_learn_mac(op->nbsp))
>>>> -        || lsp_is_switch(op->nbsp)
>>>> -        || (lsp_is_localnet(op->nbsp) && 
>>>> localnet_can_learn_mac(op->nbsp))) {
>>>> -        ds_clear(match);
>>>> -        ds_clear(actions);
>>>> -        ds_put_format(match, "inport == %s", op->json_key);
>>>> -        if (lsp_is_localnet(op->nbsp)) {
>>>> -            ds_put_cstr(actions, "flags.localnet = 1; ");
>>>> -        }
>>>> -        ds_put_format(actions, REGBIT_LKUP_FDB
>>>> -                      " = lookup_fdb(inport, eth.src); next;");
>>>> -        ovn_lflow_add(lflows, op->od, remote ? S_SWITCH_OUT_LOOKUP_FDB
>>>> -                                             : S_SWITCH_IN_LOOKUP_FDB,
>>>> -                      100, ds_cstr(match), ds_cstr(actions), 
>>>> op->lflow_ref,
>>>> -                      WITH_IO_PORT(op->key), 
>>>> WITH_HINT(&op->nbsp->header_));
>>>> -
>>>> -        ds_put_cstr(match, " && "REGBIT_LKUP_FDB" == 0");
>>>> -        ds_clear(actions);
>>>> -        ds_put_cstr(actions, "put_fdb(inport, eth.src); next;");
>>>> -        ovn_lflow_add(lflows, op->od, remote ? S_SWITCH_OUT_PUT_FDB
>>>> -                                             : S_SWITCH_IN_PUT_FDB,
>>>> -                      100, ds_cstr(match), ds_cstr(actions), 
>>>> op->lflow_ref,
>>>> -                      WITH_IO_PORT(op->key), 
>>>> WITH_HINT(&op->nbsp->header_));
>>>> +    ds_clear(match);
>>>> +    ds_clear(actions);
>>>> +    ds_put_format(match, "inport == %s", op->json_key);
>>>> +    if (lsp_is_localnet(op->nbsp)) {
>>>> +        ds_put_cstr(actions, "flags.localnet = 1; ");
>>>>    }
>>>> +    if (!remote && lsp_is_mc_unknown_ingress_member(op)) {
>>> 
>>> lsp_is_mc_unknown_ingress_member() already checks that the port is not
>>> remote.
>>> 
>>> Also why skip remote ports?
>>> 
>>> But the larger question is: we're messing up the code quite a bit with
>>> this "is traffic coming from a LSP with <unknown> addresses set but that
>>> isn't a remote port" condition everywhere.  What's the downside to using
>>> the learn action all the time?
>>> 
>>> If we _really_ need this condition, why not just implement it through
>>> physical.c flows like we do for MLF_RX_FROM_TUNNEL_BIT for example?
>>> 
>>> All these new logical flow additions in various places and with various
>>> combinations of conditions are very hard to maintain on the long term.
>> 
>> Hi Dumitru,
>> 
>> Thanks for the review.
>> 
>> Apologies for the late reply.
>> 
> 
> Hi Naveen,
> 
>> I think we can remove the remote port check.
>> 
> 
> OK.
> 
>> I was trying to avoid learning excessive entries in the
>> OFTABLE_NF_ORIG_INPORT_LEARN table, which made the patch a bit
>> more complex.
>> 
>> As per your suggestion, we can set MLF_INPORT_IN_MC_UNKNOWN in the
>> physical pipeline.  To keep this driven by northd, we can have
>> northd set options:mc_unknown_ingress on the SB Port_Binding for
> 
> Why would we need that?  We already have SB.Port_Binding.mac = "unknown"
> for those ports.  I don't think we need a new Port_Binding option.  Right?


There is a "receive_multicast" option in Logical_Switch_Port
options that controls whether unknown-unicast and multicast
packets are forwarded to a port.  Today this option is not
propagated to the SB Port_Binding.

This is the reason I thought of adding mc_unknown_ingress
option in SB Port_Binding table.

> 
>> eligible LSPs, and load MLF_INPORT_IN_MC_UNKNOWN in the
>> OFTABLE_PHY_TO_LOG stage when that option is set.  NF stages keep
>> the existing "flags.inport_in_mc_unknown == 1" guard on
>> learn/lookup.
>> 
>> If this approach looks fine, I'll address the rest of your comments
>> and send v5.
>> 
> 
> Sounds good.
> 
>> On a separate note, while thinking through the L2 stretch case with
>> overlay subnets over OVN IC (spine/leaf, VMs on leaf LSes connected
>> via a Transit_Switch with type=remote ports), I noticed a gap when
>> there are ports with "unknown" addresses on both AZs and the NF is
>> not co-located with the IC gateway that decapsulates the packet:
>> the post-NF flood copy can still leak back out towards the source
>> side and cause a MAC flap on the Transit_Switch FDB.
>> 
>> For now I'd like to call out the L2 stretch case as a known
>> limitation and request to consider this patch as the immediate fix
>> for non-stretch deployments.
>> 
> 
> OK, we have the TODO.rst file for such known gaps.  We should also
> document it in the NB man page I guess.

Ack.

> 
>> For a longer-term solution I'm still exploring options.  One
>> direction I'm considering is to extend the Geneve header so that
>> post-NF packets carry the original source inport, and use it on
>> the receiving chassis to drop copies whose outport matches the
>> carried inport.  This keeps the "same context of how the packet
>> was redirected" available on the return path without needing a
>> learn/lookup table.  Let me know your thoughts, or if there are
>> better alternatives.
> 
> One thing to be careful with when using such approaches is upgrades.  We
> need to make sure both source and destination ovn chassis properly
> handle the new geneve value.

Ack.

> 
> Also, this will have further implications on the overlay MTU, so we need
> to properly document this kind of change, at least.  In any case, let's
> discuss it further in the next development cycle as this cannot
> reasonably make it in time for 26.09.

Ack.

Thanks,
Naveen

> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Naveen
>> 
> 
> Regards,
> Dumitru


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