Hi Jan,

Do you have some test data about the cross-NUMA impact?

Thanks.

Br,
Wang Zhike

-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Scheurich [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 9:33 PM
To: O Mahony, Billy; 王志克; Darrell Ball; [email protected]; 
[email protected]; Kevin Traynor
Subject: RE: [ovs-dev] OVS DPDK NUMA pmd assignment question for physical port

Hi Billy,

> You are going to have to take the hit crossing the NUMA boundary at some 
> point if your NIC and VM are on different NUMAs.
> 
> So are you saying that it is more expensive to cross the NUMA boundary from 
> the pmd to the VM that to cross it from the NIC to the
> PMD?

Indeed, that is the case: If the NIC crosses the QPI bus when storing packets 
in the remote NUMA there is no cost involved for the PMD. (The QPI bandwidth is 
typically not a bottleneck.) The PMD only performs local memory access.

On the other hand, if the PMD crosses the QPI when copying packets into a 
remote VM, there is a huge latency penalty involved, consuming lots of PMD 
cycles that cannot be spent on processing packets. We at Ericsson have observed 
exactly this behavior.

This latency penalty becomes even worse when the LLC cache hit rate is degraded 
due to LLC cache contention with real VNFs and/or unfavorable packet buffer 
re-use patterns as exhibited by real VNFs compared to typical synthetic 
benchmark apps like DPDK testpmd.

> 
> If so then in that case you'd like to have two (for example) PMDs polling 2 
> queues on the same NIC. With the PMDs on each of the
> NUMA nodes forwarding to the VMs local to that NUMA?
> 
> Of course your NIC would then also need to be able know which VM (or at least 
> which NUMA the VM is on) in order to send the frame
> to the correct rxq.

That would indeed be optimal but hard to realize in the general case (e.g. with 
VXLAN encapsulation) as the actual destination is only known after tunnel pop. 
Here perhaps some probabilistic steering of RSS hash values based on measured 
distribution of final destinations might help in the future.

But even without that in place, we need PMDs on both NUMAs anyhow (for 
NUMA-aware polling of vhostuser ports), so why not use them to also poll remote 
eth ports. We can achieve better average performance with fewer PMDs than with 
the current limitation to NUMA-local polling.

BR, Jan

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