On 01/09/2018 01:30 PM, Jan Scheurich wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ilya Maximets [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, 09 January, 2018 14:11
>> To: Jan Scheurich <[email protected]>; Stokes, Ian 
>> <[email protected]>; Kevin Traynor <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]; O Mahony, Billy <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [ovs-dev] [RFC PATCH 0/8] dpif-netdev: Refactor cycle count and 
>> rebased patches
>>
>> On 09.01.2018 15:42, Jan Scheurich wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Let's have a Skype call to align ourselves and the way forward.
>>> I'm available 14-16 CET and 17-18 CET today. I'll send a tentative invite. 
>>> Please reply.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I'll not be able to attend today. It's already the end of my
>> working hours today and I still have some other stuff to do.
>>
>>>
>>> I realize there are major comments on all three patch sets:
>>>
>>> - Ilya has shared some architectural concerns on the PMD perf metrics v5 
>>> (v6 is just docs). I haven't had time to go through all of them
>> yet.
>>> - I don't believe the complex cycle counting in Ilya's v9 is maintainable. 
>>> We need a much simpler approach (such as my suggested
>> nestable cycle timers). And we should introduce that before the time-based 
>> tx batching.
>>> - I have proposed to radically simplify Kevin's counting of total PMD 
>>> cycles for the printout
>>>
>>> None of them is ready for merging as it is today. If our goal is to get as 
>>> many of these valuable features into 2.9 as possible, let's search
>> for the most practical way of getting there.
>>>
>>> My suggestion would be to start with the least controversial refactoring 
>>> first so that we do not introduce complex things in one patch
>> that we then throw out in the next one again. By that let's try to make the 
>> actual feature patches as small and independent as possible.
>>>
>>> Here’s my suggestions:
>>> 1. dpif-netdev: Refactor PMD performance into dpif-netdev-perf
>>> 2. dpif-netdev: Refactor cycle counting (nestable cycle timer)
>>> 3a. Time-based tx batching
>>>     dpif-netdev: Use microsecond granularity.
>>>     dpif-netdev: Count cycles on per-rxq basis. (using the nestable cycle 
>>> timers)
>>>     dpif-netdev: Time based output batching.
>>>     docs: Describe output packet batching in DPDK guide.
>>>     NEWS: Mark output packet batching support.
>>> 3b. dpif-netdev: Add percentage of pmd/core used by each rxq.
>>> 3c. Detailed PMD Performance metrics
>>>     dpif-netdev: Detailed performance stats for PMDs
>>>     dpif-netdev: Detection and logging of suspicious PMD iterations
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>
>> Basically, this looks good to me. But I still think that we should work on 
>> that
>> step-by-step not tying to make all the work at once. This will save time of
>> rebasing on intermediate versions of patches.
> 
> Fine with me as long as that doesn't stop review and testing of the not yet 
> rebased
> patches 3a-c. We need those tests and reviews to find and address any 
> deficiencies
> inherent in the feature (independent from rebasing).
> 

I'm not sure if there is some reason you have tied those patches (3)
together. I thought the idea now was to keep things separate?

I'm making a few edits on 3b atm. Can possibly take this out of the
chain. It applies without any of the other patches, but I'm not sure if
it's functional yet.

>> I'll try to spend some time from the rest of today to check out "nestable 
>> cycle timers".
>> Would like to see fixed patch from #1 and a proper patch for #2.
> 
> I will try to send out patches for #1 (v6) and #2 this afternoon.
> 
>> Step #3a should not be hard.
>>
> 
> @Ian, Kevin and Billy: Should we anyway have a short Skype chat?
> 

I think we have a plan, let's skip and keep on email.

> Regards, Jan
> 

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