On 1/8/2020 4:38 PM, Ilya Maximets wrote:
On 07.01.2020 11:51, Stokes, Ian wrote:


On 1/2/2020 12:27 PM, Ilya Maximets wrote:
On 20.12.2019 16:28, Emma Finn wrote:
Add an ovs-appctl command to iterate through the dpcls
and for each subtable output the miniflow bits for any
existing table.

$ ovs-appctl dpif-netdev/subtable-show
pmd thread numa_id 0
    dpcls port 2:
      subtable:
        unit_0: 2 (0x5)
        unit_1: 1 (0x1)
pmd thread numa_id 1
    dpcls port 3:
      subtable:
        unit_0: 2 (0x5)
        unit_1: 1 (0x1)

Signed-off-by: Emma Finn <[email protected]>

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So, what about my suggestions and thoughts about alternative solutions
that I posted in reply to RFC?  It's still unclear why we need to disturb
the running datapath to get this information, especially if we could get
it "offline" from the flow dump.

Hi Ilya,

apologies I've only spotted this post now.

I guess to my mind there are a few reasons why this is being added as a new 
command and not a separate application to process/parse the flow dumps of a 
datapath.

(i) Ease of implementation, it seems straight forward enough to follow the 
existing commands structure such as dpif-netdev/pmd-rxq-show to implement this 
command. It had the required elements (required data structures etc.) so 
minimum plumbing was required to get access to that info and it will be 
familiar to any other developers who have already worked or will work in that 
area of the code in the future.

I agree this could be done offline without the need to lock the datapath, but 
from my understanding I don't think the intention here is to run this command 
at a frequent or high interval so I would think that the lock should not be an 
issue unless the command is being executed continually (again similar to 
pmd-rxq-show, it would be called when needed only).

The concern of adding a new separate application for parsing the dump flow as 
you suggested came down to it being another separate app within OVS to maintain 
as well as the work required to plumb or parse all required info.

It's not hard to parse.  Just a few function calls.  Most of the required
functionality exists in 'lib' code.

If you don't like a separate app or script, this information could be printed

I think it would be better to keep it in OVS rather than a separate app/script.

in a flow-dump in a some special field named like 'dp-extra-info' or whatever.
Like this:
   
recirc_id(0),in_port(1),packet_type(ns=0,id=0),eth_type(0x0800),ipv4(frag=no), 
dp-extra-info:miniflow_bits(0x5, 0x1), actions:hash(sym_l4(0)),recirc(0x1)


This is interesting approach, but are we missing info such as the in ports, numa nodes etc? Maybe Harry can comment to this as it was his idea originally. It seems with either approach you will be missing some info depending on how you want to approach the debug usecase.

'dp-extra-info' might be printed with verbosity enabled if dpif provided this
information.

I haven't looked at ovs-ofctl myself, not sure how much work would be needed to access this info or if you are back to parsing, again I think the idea here is we have this info available in the current approach as is why parse and break out these values?

Would it even be acceptable for 2.13 as well? it would be a new v1 and we're past the soft freeze.


I really feel that this information (miniflow bits) should be bonded with 
flow-dump
somehow just because it belongs there.

I guess we're looking at this from different points of view, don't shoot me but would it make sense to have both approaches? :-D


After posting the RFC we had a number of users already applying the patch and 
using it in their deployments, we spoke about it at the conference and didn't 
hear any objections so I this is why the patch has continued with this approach 
for the 2.13 release.

They didn't have any alternatives to use. =)

Agree, but the choice provided worked well so it may not have been a problem :D.

Best Regards
Ian

Best regards, Ilya Maximets.

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