On 5/26/21 9:39 AM, Frode Nordahl wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:08 PM Ihar Hrachyshka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> During the irc meeting today, a question of @openstack bot was raised.
>> We use the bot to manage and log our weekly meetings, and we would
>> like to continue using it after migration.
>>
>> I talked to openstack infra folks (specifically, @fungi), and here is
>> what I am told:
>> - openstack still hasn't decided whether to move anywhere from freenode;
>> - if they move, they will move to oftc that was long time ago
>> designated as their backup;
>> - they pre-created all official channels for their sub-projects in
>> oftc; #openvswitch is not openstack project and so is not owned by
>> them there;
>> - I am told that even the fact the bot was enabled for freenode
>> #openvswitch was probably a mistake since they usually require
>> ownership for the channel to do that. Regardless,
>> https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/714174/ was
>> merged.
>>
>> It doesn't seem like there are plans to ever support bot on libera
>> network. They MAY support it on oftc is tech committee decides to move
>> (still on agenda). If we want to continue using the bot, we will have
>> to run our own instance (both the bot itself as well as the web server
>> to publish logs).
>>
>> It may be easier to move to oftc and not libera if we want to continue
>> using the bot without taking over its maintenance. Regardless, we may
>> have to formally pass over ownership of the channel to openstack
>> infra.
>>
>> If you ask my personal opinion, I would take a timeout and watch what
>> other projects (especially openstack that we rely on here) do and then
>> decide. Freenode is still operating and can serve the project needs
>> until we have a better picture.
> 
> Our, and some 700 other channels, were just taken over for advertising
> other IRC networks in topic (see attached screenshot). I think this is
> the cue to leave Freenode.

Yes, this looks like no way back.

Ben did you lose control over the channel on freenode?

For the meeting bot.  It's, probably, not that important.  We can continue
sending meeting logs just to the mailing list for now as we did before, IIRC.
Also, we have a website ovn.org where we can store meeting minutes.

Handover of the channel to openstack organization doesn't sound right to
me and I don't know what was the terms of original bot integration.

Daniel, can you comment on this?

BTW, we're using a bare minimum of the MeetBot's functionality, so we can
run it offline on the meeting logs to achieve the same effect.  MeetBot
supports offline "replay" that produces meeting logs and summaries that
could be uploaded to the website.  I understand that it's a manual step
in compare with having a bot, but, probably, that's not too hard?  And
could be partially automated.

Mark, what do you think?

Meanwhile, we likely need to update openvswitch.org website with the
link to the new IRC server.

Best regards, Ilya Maximets.
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