On 5/24/23 09:37, Felix Huettner wrote:
> Hi everyone,

Hi Felix,

> 
> Ilya mentioned to me that you will want to bring openstack examples to
> ovn-heater.
> 

Yes, we're discussing that.

> I wanted to ask how to best join this effort. It would be great for us

Everyone is welcome to contribute! :)

> to have a tool to scale test ovn. Also we have an ovn deployment with
> currently 450 compute nodes where we can try to extract the typically
> used northbound entries from.
> 

This is great!  I'm not an OpenStack user so I'm probably not using the
right terminology and I might be missing things but I think we're
interested in:
- how many tenant networks do you have in the cluster
- for each tenant network:
  - how many VMs (on average but maybe also min/max/etc)
  - how many floating IPs (dnat-and-snat)
  - how many compute nodes run VMs from this network
- for each compute:
  - how many VMs run on it (on average but also min/max/etc)

Maybe Frode and Daniel can expand on this.

Regards,
Dumitru

> Thanks
> Felix
> 
> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 05:38:25PM +0200, Daniel Alvarez Sanchez wrote:
>> Hey Frode, Dumitru, thanks a lot for initiating this
>>
>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 6:05 PM Frode Nordahl <frode.nord...@canonical.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, Dumitru, Daniel and team,
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 5:23 PM Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Frode,
>>>>
>>>> During an internal discussion with RedHat OpenStack folks (Daniel in cc)
>>>> about scalability of OVN in OpenStack deployments I remembered that you
>>>> mentioned that you're thinking of enhancing ovn-heater in order to test
>>>> your types of deployments [0].  I assumed that those are also OpenStack
>>>> based deployments so I was wondering if there's an opportunity for
>>>> collaboration here.
>>>
>>> Thank you for reaching out to me on this topic. We do indeed have scale
>>> testing in the context of OpenStack on our roadmap and welcome the
>>> invitation to collaborate on this.
>>>
>>> As you know we did some preparation work together already as you refer
>>> to in [0], and we thank you for your help in upstreaming ovn-heater.
>>>
>>> We have yet to schedule exactly when in the cycle to work on this, I
>>> guess a next step could be to set up a meet to share some ideas and
>>> see how it aligns?
>>
>>
>>> If that resonates with you, I'd be happy to organize.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds good, please do :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Having OpenStack-like scenarios in ovn-heater would really allow OVN
>>>> developers to profile/troubleshoot/optimize OVN for those use cases too.
>>>>
>>>> Well, in general, the above is true for any other CMS too.
>>>
>>> Yes, this is what we have been thinking as well. We are supporting other
>>> products in their journey with OVN as well, so similar projects may come
>>> from those in the future.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, we can try to model OpenStack-like scenarios for ovn-heater where the
>> resources are generally more distributed across the hypervisors than in k8s
>> for example, perhaps larger L2 domain sizes, etcetera.
>> Happy to discuss further!
>>
>> daniel
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> Frode Nordahl
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dumitru
>>>>
>>>> [0]
>>> https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2023-March/402680.html
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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