Viacheslav Galaktionov <[email protected]> writes:

> On 12/4/23 11:23, Viacheslav Galaktionov wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 12/1/23 15:32, Aaron Conole wrote:
>>> Viacheslav Galaktionov <[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 11/27/23 19:33, Aaron Conole wrote:
>>>>> Viacheslav Galaktionov <[email protected]> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/22/23 16:14, Aaron Conole wrote:
>>>>>>>> Viacheslav Galaktionov writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When a packet hits a flow rule without an explicitly specified
>>>>>>>> helper,
>>>>>>>> OvS has to rely on automatic application layer gateway detection to
>>>>>>>> find related connections. This works as long as services are
>>>>>>>> running on
>>>>>>>> their standard ports, e.g. when FTP servers use TCP port 21.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, sometimes it's necessary to run services on
>>>>>>>> non-standard ports.
>>>>>>>> In that case, there is no way for OvS to guess which protocol
>>>>>>>> is used
>>>>>>>> within a given flow. Of course, this means that no related
>>>>>>>> connections
>>>>>>>> can be recognized.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When a connection is committed with a particular helper, it's
>>>>>>>> reasonable
>>>>>>>> to assume this helper will be used in subsequent CT actions,
>>>>>>>> as long as
>>>>>>>> they don't override it. Achieve this behaviour by using the
>>>>>>>> committed
>>>>>>>> connection's helper when a flow rule does not specify one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Viacheslav Galaktionov
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Acked-by: Ivan Malov <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>     lib/conntrack.c | 9 +++++++++
>>>>>>>>     1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
>>>>>>> Hi Viacheslav,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you plan to send a v4 which has news and faq updated?
>>>>>> Hi Aaron!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was actually waiting for your comments, so I could address them and
>>>>>> update the NEWS and FAQ at the same time. I can send a v4 in the next
>>>>>> couple of days if you want.
>>>>> Sorry - that's my mistake.  Please send the v4.
>>>>>
>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I've only just now taken a proper look at the FAQ, and I don't
>>>> see what
>>>> I should change there. There doesn't seem to be any mention of
>>>> this subject
>>>> in the file and my patches actually make netdev datapaths behave
>>>> in the same
>>>> manner as system datapaths when it comes to conntrack helpers, so
>>>> there's
>>>> probably no point describing a difference that's no longer there.
>>> I was thinking that it would make sense to update the following from
>>> Documentation/faq/releases.rst:
>>>
>>>>   Q: Are all features available with all datapaths?
>>>>
>>>>       A: Open vSwitch supports different datapaths on different
>>>> platforms.  Each
>>>>       datapath has a different feature set: the following tables
>>>> try to summarize
>>>>       the status.
>>> There is a table there where we try to list any compatibility or
>>> differences.  Helper behavior here is a difference in older versions so
>>> we could put something like:
>>>
>>>      Conntrack Helper Assign.        YES            YES 3.2
>>>
>>> Maybe it would introduce more confusion that it removes?  But since it
>>> is a behavior change which aligns the datapaths, it would be good to
>>> document it and that question does deal with some of it.
>>>
>> Ok, I guess that makes sense. I've looked at the Hyper-V datapath,
>> seems like
>> it only uses the helper specified in a given rule, so I'm going to
>> put a NO in
>> the table. I don't really have any means to test changes to Hyper-V,
>> so I can't
>> implement it myself. I hope that's okay.
> Although now it looks like Hyper-V can't use helpers at all. Should we
> change
> "Assign." to "Persist." to indicate that helpers persist across
> different flow
> rules? I'm not absolutely sure about this phrasing too, I think it may
> require
> some additional explanation somewhere?

Maybe Alin has some suggestion.

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