On 6/19/25 6:07 PM, Gavin McKee wrote:
> I’m cool with anything that doesn’t compromise the performance of the
> controller .
> 
> If an option on the LSP would do it then I’d be more than happy. As long as
> the end state is something I can get from the OVS patch port on the
> provider bridge then it’s a win .
> 

Sounds good to me, looking forward to a new version of the patch!

> I went with the external_ids approach as I thought it was the CMS
> integration preferred approach .
> 

Thanks for the discussion, everyone!

Regards,
Dumitru

> Gav
> 
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 16:20 Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Numan, Gavin,
>>
>> On 6/19/25 5:09 PM, Numan Siddique wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 9:21 AM Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 6/19/25 1:52 PM, Gavin McKee wrote:
>>>>> Hi @Dumitru Ceara,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Gav,
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for taking the time to review the patch.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be great if you could elaborate more on why copying the
>>>>>> external_ids to the patch port is needed.
>>>>> The motivation for this is driven simply to allow the assignment of a
>>>>> localnet port (and the associated patch port) to a specific tenant in
>>>>> the provider bridge.
>>>>> I am implementing a custom Openflow pipeline in the provider bridge to
>>>>> enable routing to MPLS edge nodes via EVPN Type 5.
>>>>> The customer logical router port will have a tenant specific gateway
>>>>> implemented in the provider bridge and I'd like to use a metadata
>>>>> field to carry that context by setting an external_id:tenant_id=XXXXX
>>>>> .  Any packets received on that patch port I can
>>>>> 1. set the metadata to tenant_id
>>>>> 2. carry that through the match action conditions.  This is why
>> localnet only.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope that makes sense .  I'm an amature here so if you've an
>>>>> approach that would work I'd appreciate the guidance.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the additional details.  Just in case you missed it we're
>>>> currently working on extending the dynamic-routing support added in
>>>> 25.03 to work with EVPN (but via IP and not MPLS).  Some details were
>>>> discussed in the previous technical community meeting:
>>>>
>>>> https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-dev/2025-May/423330.html
>>>>
>>>> Back to your patch, I guess it might make sense in general (also for
>>>> other integration features) to propagate the SB.Port_Binding
>>>> external_ids (copied from the CMS-provided NB external_ids) to the
>>>> OVS ports.  Maybe even for all switch ports, so not only for
>>>> localnet patch ports created by ovn-controller.
>>>>
>>>> I'm still a bit worried about the potential performance impact though.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that other CMS (e.g., ovn-kubernetes) set
>>>> Logical_Switch_port.external_ids of their own and, while your patch
>>>> doesn't do anything with them  if they're not on localnet ports,
>>>> ovn-controller will now receive them all from the SB server (because
>>>> it now monitors the Port_Binding.external_ids column) and will also
>>>> trigger all the computations I listed below.
>>>>
>>>> In theory we could change all possible SB.Port_Binding handlers in
>>>> ovn-controller to ignore the external_ids changes if that's the
>>>> only change that happened to the port binding.  Something like:
>>>>
>>>> static bool
>>>> sb_port_binding_only_external_ids_changed(const struct
>> sbrec_port_binding *pb)
>>>> {
>>>>     if (sbrec_port_binding_is_new(pb) ||
>> sbrec_port_binding_is_deleted(pb)) {
>>>>         return false;
>>>>     }
>>>>
>>>>     for (size_t col = 0; col < SBREC_PORT_BINDING_N_COLUMNS; col++) {
>>>>         if (col != SBREC_PORT_BINDING_COL_EXTERNAL_IDS
>>>>             && sbrec_port_binding_is_updated(pb, col)) {
>>>>             return false;
>>>>         }
>>>>     }
>>>>     return true;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> And then sprinkle calls to this function in all SB.Port_Binding
>>>> handlers.  But that's quite error prone, and honestly, ugly.
>>>>
>>>> However, I don't have a better idea on how to implement this with
>>>> external_ids at the moment.  CC-ing more maintainers for ideas.
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, there might be another way of achieving what you want, with
>>>> a bit more work on the CMS side.  Can you make the CMS component
>>>> that's adding the OVS.external_ids:ovn-bridge-mappings (required
>>>> by ovn-controller to create the patch port) aware of the tenant-id
>>>> information?  It could then store that into the patch port
>>>> external_ids once ovn-controller creates it.
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe it could even update the custom OpenFlow pipeline in the
>>>> provider bridge directly when the patch port is created.  But I'm
>>>> not sure if that's something easy to implement in your CMS.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the patch Gavin.
>>>
>>> @Dumitru Ceara   Eventually we will be using the ovn bridge controller
>>> (or ovn-pr-controller)
>>> to control the provider bridge.  Maybe we can support adding an OVN
>>> bridge port in the "Bridge" table
>>> here -
>> https://github.com/numansiddique/ovnbr/blob/initial_commits/ovn-br.ovsschema#L69
>>>
>>> And CMS can add a Bridge port in the ovnbr database which maps to the
>>> localnet port / patch port
>>> and it can set the tenant specific metadata.  This way we probably
>>> don't need this patch ?
>>>
>>
>> Interesting, I hadn't made the link between the "ovn bridge controller"
>> proposal and this patch until now. :)
>>
>> I guess that could work.
>>
>> Alternatively (or maybe in conjunction), we could create a new explicit
>> well documented OVN.NB.Logical_Switch_Port.option that northd would
>> propagate to OVN.SB.Port_Binding.
>>
>> ovn-controller could then reflect that (and only that) in the OVS
>> (patch) port associated to the Port_binding.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dumitru
>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Numan
>>>
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dumitru
>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Gav
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 at 04:19, Dumitru Ceara <dce...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Gavin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the patch!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be great if you could elaborate more on why copying the
>>>>>> external_ids to the patch port is needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm asking because your code is now changing ovn-controller to also
>>>>>> monitor SB.Port_Binding.external_ids.  That means that every time a
>> port
>>>>>> binding's external_ids get updated (i.e., every time the
>>>>>> NB.Logical_Switch_Port.external_ids are updated) we end up doing
>> quite a
>>>>>> lot of compute work in ovn-controller.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is (probably not complete) the following I-P handlers are called:
>>>>>> - pflow_output_sb_port_binding_handler()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - lflow_output_sb_port_binding_handler()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - runtime_data_sb_port_binding_handler() -> which marks
>> en_runtime_data
>>>>>> as updated and in turn triggers the following I-P nodes to be
>> computed:
>>>>>>   a. en_pflow_output (pflow_output_runtime_data_handler())
>>>>>>   b. en_lflow_output (lflow_output_runtime_data_handler())
>>>>>>   c. en_ct_zones (ct_zones_runtime_data_handler())
>>>>>>   d. en_mac_cache (mac_cache_runtime_data_handler())
>>>>>>   e. en_garp_rarp (garp_rarp_runtime_data_handler() - this will
>> actually
>>>>>> fail to incrementally process changes for switches with localnet
>> ports)
>>>>>>   f. en_lb_data (lb_data_runtime_data_handler())
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - garp_rarp_sb_port_binding_handler() - this will actually fail to
>>>>>> incrementally process changes for switches with localnet ports)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I guess, based on how often the NB.Logical_Switch_Port
>> external_ids
>>>>>> change we might see some signficant performance implications on the
>>>>>> ovn-controller side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please see some more comments inline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/18/25 5:57 PM, Gavin McKee via dev wrote:
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Gavin McKee <gavmcke...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>  controller/ovn-controller.8.xml |  5 +++
>>>>>>>  controller/ovn-controller.c     |  1 -
>>>>>>>  controller/patch.c              | 44 +++++++++++++++++---
>>>>>>>  tests/ovn-controller.at         | 72
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>  4 files changed, 115 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/controller/ovn-controller.8.xml
>> b/controller/ovn-controller.8.xml
>>>>>>> index 5007f5f80..422eb2cf7 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/controller/ovn-controller.8.xml
>>>>>>> +++ b/controller/ovn-controller.8.xml
>>>>>>> @@ -554,6 +554,11 @@
>>>>>>>            bridge, with the same
>> <code>external_ids:ovn-localnet-port</code>
>>>>>>>            value.
>>>>>>>          </p>
>>>>>>> +        <p>
>>>>>>> +          When a <code>localnet</code> port has additional values
>> in its
>>>>>>> +          <code>external_ids</code> column, these key-value pairs
>> are copied to
>>>>>>> +          the corresponding patch ports.
>>>>>>> +        </p>
>>>>>>>        </dd>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        <dt>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/controller/ovn-controller.c
>> b/controller/ovn-controller.c
>>>>>>> index 7940091da..8c8d47fe3 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/controller/ovn-controller.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/controller/ovn-controller.c
>>>>>>> @@ -5857,7 +5857,6 @@ main(int argc, char *argv[])
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      ovsdb_idl_omit(ovnsb_idl_loop.idl,
>> &sbrec_sb_global_col_external_ids);
>>>>>>>      ovsdb_idl_omit(ovnsb_idl_loop.idl,
>> &sbrec_logical_flow_col_external_ids);
>>>>>>> -    ovsdb_idl_omit(ovnsb_idl_loop.idl,
>> &sbrec_port_binding_col_external_ids);
>>>>>>>      ovsdb_idl_omit(ovnsb_idl_loop.idl, &sbrec_ssl_col_external_ids);
>>>>>>>      ovsdb_idl_omit(ovnsb_idl_loop.idl,
>>>>>>>                     &sbrec_gateway_chassis_col_external_ids);
>>>>>>> diff --git a/controller/patch.c b/controller/patch.c
>>>>>>> index 4fed6e375..5ba1466e0 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/controller/patch.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/controller/patch.c
>>>>>>> @@ -73,18 +73,38 @@ match_patch_port(const struct ovsrec_port *port,
>> const char *peer)
>>>>>>>   * 'dst_name' in bridge 'dst'.  Initializes the patch port's
>> external-ids:'key'
>>>>>>>   * to 'key'.
>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>> - * If such a patch port already exists, removes it from
>> 'existing_ports'. */
>>>>>>> + * If such a patch port already exists, removes it from
>> 'existing_ports'.  Any
>>>>>>> + * key-value pairs in 'extra_ids' are merged into the port's
>> external IDs.  If
>>>>>>> + * the port already exists, its external IDs are updated
>> accordingly.
>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>>  static void
>>>>>>>  create_patch_port(struct ovsdb_idl_txn *ovs_idl_txn,
>>>>>>>                    const char *key, const char *value,
>>>>>>>                    const struct ovsrec_bridge *src, const char
>> *src_name,
>>>>>>>                    const struct ovsrec_bridge *dst, const char
>> *dst_name,
>>>>>>> -                  struct shash *existing_ports)
>>>>>>> +                  struct shash *existing_ports,
>>>>>>> +                  const struct smap *extra_ids)
>>>>>>>  {
>>>>>>>      for (size_t i = 0; i < src->n_ports; i++) {
>>>>>>>          if (match_patch_port(src->ports[i], dst_name)) {
>>>>>>>              /* Patch port already exists on 'src'. */
>>>>>>> -            shash_find_and_delete(existing_ports,
>> src->ports[i]->name);
>>>>>>> +            const struct ovsrec_port *port = src->ports[i];
>>>>>>> +            shash_find_and_delete(existing_ports, port->name);
>>>>>>> +            if (extra_ids) {
>>>>>>> +                const struct smap *ids = &port->external_ids;
>>>>>>> +                struct smap merged = SMAP_INITIALIZER(&merged);
>>>>>>> +                smap_clone(&merged, ids);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can avoid the local variable and just use "&port->external_ids"
>> here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +                struct smap_node *node;
>>>>>>> +                SMAP_FOR_EACH (node, extra_ids) {
>>>>>>> +                    const char *cur = smap_get(&merged, node->key);
>>>>>>> +                    if (!cur || strcmp(cur, node->value)) {
>>>>>>> +                        ovsrec_port_update_external_ids_setkey(port,
>>>>>>> +
>> node->key,
>>>>>>> +
>> node->value);
>>>>>>> +                    }
>>>>>>> +                }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It might be faster to just merge &port->external_ids and extra_ids and
>>>>>> unconditionally call ovsrec_port_update_external_ids() and let the IDL
>>>>>> layer take care of the diffs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, "merged" is a confusing name because it doesn't really contain
>> any
>>>>>> merged sets of values.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +                smap_destroy(&merged);
>>>>>>> +            }
>>>>>>>              return;
>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>> @@ -94,9 +114,16 @@ create_patch_port(struct ovsdb_idl_txn
>> *ovs_idl_txn,
>>>>>>>              src_name, src->name, dst->name);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      const struct smap if_options = SMAP_CONST1(&if_options, "peer",
>> dst_name);
>>>>>>> -    const struct smap port_ids = SMAP_CONST1(&port_ids, key, value);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +    struct smap port_ids = SMAP_INITIALIZER(&port_ids);
>>>>>>> +    if (extra_ids) {
>>>>>>> +        smap_clone(&port_ids, extra_ids);
>>>>>>> +    }
>>>>>>> +    smap_replace(&port_ids, key, value);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>      ovsport_create(ovs_idl_txn, src, src_name, "patch", &port_ids,
>> NULL,
>>>>>>>                     &if_options, 0);
>>>>>>> +    smap_destroy(&port_ids);
>>>>>>>  }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  static void
>>>>>>> @@ -223,12 +250,17 @@ add_bridge_mappings_by_type(struct
>> ovsdb_idl_txn *ovs_idl_txn,
>>>>>>>          sset_find_and_delete(&missed_bridges, msg_key);
>>>>>>>          free(msg_key);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +        const struct smap *extra_ids =
>>>>>>> +            !strcmp(pb_type, "localnet") ? &binding->external_ids :
>> NULL;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why only for localnet?  But I guess that information would be part of
>>>>>> the answer to the question I had on the commit message (about the
>> actual
>>>>>> use case).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          char *name1 = patch_port_name(br_int->name,
>> binding->logical_port);
>>>>>>>          char *name2 = patch_port_name(binding->logical_port,
>> br_int->name);
>>>>>>>          create_patch_port(ovs_idl_txn, patch_port_id,
>> binding->logical_port,
>>>>>>> -                          br_int, name1, br_ln, name2,
>> existing_ports);
>>>>>>> +                          br_int, name1, br_ln, name2,
>> existing_ports,
>>>>>>> +                          extra_ids);
>>>>>>>          create_patch_port(ovs_idl_txn, patch_port_id,
>> binding->logical_port,
>>>>>>> -                          br_ln, name2, br_int, name1,
>> existing_ports);
>>>>>>> +                          br_ln, name2, br_int, name1,
>> existing_ports,
>>>>>>> +                          extra_ids);
>>>>>>>          free(name1);
>>>>>>>          free(name2);
>>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>> diff --git a/tests/ovn-controller.at b/tests/ovn-controller.at
>>>>>>> index ae7eb6f31..6ae97e87d 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/tests/ovn-controller.at
>>>>>>> +++ b/tests/ovn-controller.at
>>>>>>> @@ -139,6 +139,7 @@ check_patches \
>>>>>>>      'br-int  patch-br-int-to-localnet2 patch-localnet2-to-br-int' \
>>>>>>>      'br-eth0 patch-localnet2-to-br-int patch-br-int-to-localnet2'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nit: unrelated change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  # Add logical patch ports to connect new logical datapath.
>>>>>>>  #
>>>>>>>  # OVN no longer uses OVS patch ports to implement logical patch
>> ports, so
>>>>>>> @@ -174,6 +175,77 @@ OVS_APP_EXIT_AND_WAIT([ovsdb-server])
>>>>>>>  AT_CLEANUP
>>>>>>>  ])
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +OVN_FOR_EACH_NORTHD([
>>>>>>> +AT_SETUP([Localnet port external ids])
>>>>>>> +AT_KEYWORDS([lb])
>>>>>>> +ovn_start
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl ls-add sw0
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-add sw0 sw0-port1
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-set-addresses sw0-port1 "50:54:00:00:00:01
>> 10.0.0.3 1000::3"
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-add sw0 sw0-port2
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-set-addresses sw0-port2 "50:54:00:00:00:02
>> 10.0.0.4 1000::4"
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lr-add lr0
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lrp-add lr0 lr0-sw0 00:00:00:00:ff:01 10.0.0.1/24
>> 1000::1/64
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-add sw0 sw0-lr0
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-set-type sw0-lr0 router
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-set-addresses sw0-lr0 router
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-set-options sw0-lr0 router-port=lr0-sw0
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl ls-add public
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lrp-add lr0 lr0-public 00:00:20:20:12:13
>> 172.168.0.100/24 2000::1/64
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-add public public-lr0
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-set-type public-lr0 router
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-set-addresses public-lr0 router
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-set-options public-lr0 router-port=lr0-public
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +# localnet port
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-add public ln-public
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-set-type ln-public localnet
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-set-addresses ln-public unknown
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lsp-set-options ln-public network_name=phys
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl lrp-set-gateway-chassis lr0-public hv1 20
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +net_add n1
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +sim_add hv1
>>>>>>> +as hv1
>>>>>>> +ovs-vsctl add-br br-phys
>>>>>>> +ovn_attach n1 br-phys 192.168.0.1
>>>>>>> +ovs-vsctl set open . external-ids:ovn-bridge-mappings=phys:br-phys
>>>>>>> +ovs-vsctl -- add-port br-int hv1-vif1 -- \
>>>>>>> +    set interface hv1-vif1 external-ids:iface-id=sw0-port1 \
>>>>>>> +    options:tx_pcap=hv1/vif1-tx.pcap \
>>>>>>> +    options:rxq_pcap=hv1/vif1-rx.pcap \
>>>>>>> +    ofport-request=1
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl --wait=hv set logical_switch_port ln-public
>> external_ids:foo=bar
>>>>>>> +wait_column "foo=bar" Port_Binding external_ids
>> logical_port=ln-public
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +AT_CHECK([as hv1 ovs-vsctl get port patch-br-int-to-ln-public
>> external_ids:foo], [0], [dnl
>>>>>>> +bar
>>>>>>> +])
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +AT_CHECK([as hv1 ovs-vsctl get port patch-ln-public-to-br-int
>> external_ids:foo], [0], [dnl
>>>>>>> +bar
>>>>>>> +])
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +check ovn-nbctl --wait=hv set logical_switch_port ln-public
>> external_ids:foo=foobar
>>>>>>> +wait_column "foo=foobar" Port_Binding external_ids
>> logical_port=ln-public
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +AT_CHECK([as hv1 ovs-vsctl get port patch-br-int-to-ln-public
>> external_ids:foo], [0], [dnl
>>>>>>> +foobar
>>>>>>> +])
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +AT_CHECK([as hv1 ovs-vsctl get port patch-ln-public-to-br-int
>> external_ids:foo], [0], [dnl
>>>>>>> +foobar
>>>>>>> +])
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +AT_CLEANUP
>>>>>>> +])
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>  # Checks that ovn-controller populates datapath-type and iface-types
>>>>>>>  # correctly in the Chassis other_config column.
>>>>>>>  OVN_FOR_EACH_NORTHD([
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dumitru
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 

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