Went through this with ssh, ftp, and RATs over HTTP.  Thanks.

John Crout
On Sep 28, 2014 10:31 AM, "Jamie Riden" <jamie.ri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Application layer in the 4 layer TCP model I think. I've never really
> liked the distinctions at the top of the 7 layer OSI model.
>
> http://www.omnisecu.com/tcpip/tcpip-model.php
>
> cheers,
>  Jamie
>
> On 28 September 2014 17:22, John Crout <john.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What later us it then, in TCP model?
> >
> > John
> > - via phone
> >
> > On Sep 28, 2014 4:28 AM, "Jamie Riden" <jamie.ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> bash is not link layer. Put the mod_sec rules in and patch bash.
> >>
> >> iptables can do pattern matching, but someone's already written the
> >> mod_sec rules for you, and I suspect it has vastly better protocol
> >> decoding capabilities.
> >>
> >> (Sounds like more bash patches on the way according to Michal
> >> Zalewski, so both mod_sec rules and patching are preferred rather than
> >> either in isolation.)
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >>  Jamie
> >>
> >> On 27 September 2014 17:28, John Crout <john.cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Are both if these true?
> >> > Modsecurity is an Application layer firewall, and bash (any shell) is
> >> > Link
> >> > Layer?
> >> >
> >> > Maybe an iptables ruleset?
> >> >
> >> > John Crout
> >> > - via phone
> >> >
> >> > On Sep 26, 2014 5:16 PM, "Joshua Roback" <jrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/650
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/24/bash-specially-crafted-environment-variables-code-injection-attack/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> http://www.csoonline.com/article/2687265/application-security/remote-exploit-in-bash-cve-2014-6271.html
> >> >>
> >> >> Has anyone come across a ModSec rule for this new CVE?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Joshua Roback
> >> >>
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