Nice job, fellers! Can’t wait to try it on my dev server! But given my 
schedule, I think that will be in March.



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From: Christian Folini<mailto:christian.fol...@netnea.com>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 11:18 PM
To: Barry Pollard<mailto:barry_poll...@hotmail.com>
Cc: 
owasp-modsecurity-core-rule-set@lists.owasp.org<mailto:owasp-modsecurity-core-rule-set@lists.owasp.org>
Subject: Re: [Owasp-modsecurity-core-rule-set] CRS3-RC1 not working on Apache 
2.2



Hi there,

Thanks Barry. I certainly did not expect many people to jump into this
immediately. It's a release candidate after all and there are many
constraints for existing servers.

I agree that a new service is better of starting with the CRS3
immediately, than deploying CRS2 and migrating sooner or later.

What felt bad was the radio silence here on the list. A thumbs up
would be nice. A "thanks for the RC. Looking forward to install it
when I find the time" style message. I guess you get the idea.

Ahoj,

Christian




On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 09:01:56PM +0000, Barry Pollard wrote:
> Christian I think you missed possibly the two main reasons for lack of 
> comments:
>
> 1. People haven't had a chance to try it yet. It's been out 3 days! While you 
> guys have spent a lot of time on this, and I honestly appreciate that, 
> ModSecurity is not my full time job and while I personally do intend to have 
> a look I've simply not had the time yet. I subscribe to this mailing list to 
> keep abreast of changes, be aware of issues and help out when I can but that 
> doesn't mean I'm going to jump immediately at any changes - particularly big 
> ones like this.
>
> 2. Is there a benefit in upgrading? Now before you take offence at that let 
> me explain what I mean by that: I've invested a lot of time tuning the older 
> CRS on the websites I look after to the point it doesn't false alert much. It 
> works for me, I'm happy with it and it's not missing any features that CRS3 
> will give me AFAIK. Would installing ModSecurity have been easier if CRS3 was 
> about then? Absolutely! And if adding ModSecurity to a new site going forward 
> then I'll almost certainly go straight with version 3, but for me, one of the 
> main benefits of this upgrade is the ease of installing it - as it shouldn't 
> be full of false positives when installed with default settings like 2.9 and 
> previous were. As I say, I've already got 2.9 working now, so that doesn't 
> benefit me as much. I've also a certain amount of fear of time it would take 
> to configure, and make me have to reimplement my tuning, for little extra 
> benefit at this point. Do let me know if I'm missing something and!
  y!
>  ou feel there's some big benefits to me that should make me jump this up my 
> priority list.
>
> I think the work done here seems great. I think it seems to lay a good 
> foundation for future development of the CRS. And I appreciate the time gone 
> into it and the frustration the radio silence since release must feel like. I 
> followed with interest the discussions on this but never actually installed 
> the version 3 rules while they were being developed for above reasons so, for 
> me, it's not as simple as upgrading to RC1 and giving further feedback.
>
> Will feedback when I get a chance to look and hopefully others, that have 
> taken time to have a go with this, will give you some of the feedback you're 
> looking for.
>
> Thanks,
> Barry
>
> > On 19 Aug 2016, at 20:39, Christian Folini <christian.fol...@netnea.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We had the first major bug report for CRS3-RC1 today.
> > https://github.com/SpiderLabs/owasp-modsecurity-crs/issues/542
> >
> > The maximum line length of Apache 2.2 is too short for two of the
> > new Remote Command Execution rules which come in at over 10K bytes.
> >
> > Expect a fix on github in the next few days; certainly for RC2.
> >
> > Meanwhile Apache 2.4 is doing great and github user @emphazer who
> > discovered this bug reports of over 100 production machines running
> > CRS3-RC1.
> >
> > But the list here has remained silent over the release. I see several
> > possible reasons:
> > - Nobody gives a shit
> > - It fails so miserably on your server you removed it immediately and
> >  you do not want to talk about CRS anymore
> > - It worked like a charm without any false positives, so you forgot
> >  about its existence instantly.
> >
> > Either way, some feedback would be nice. This is an opensource project.
> > Chaim and Walter worked day and night for this, and if not even the
> > project mailinglist has some positive or negative feedback, then I
> > wonder why anybody is doing this at all.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Christian Folini
> >
> >
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