Paul Alfille skrev:
>
>
>     >OWFS handles multiple adapters seemlessly. There is no specified
>     limit on the number, but I haven't tried 10-15. You can also
>     partition the master among multiple machines, or multiple
>     instances of owserver on the same machine. The overhead is minimal.
>
Sorry for making an OT answer. Unfortunately the multiple adapters
support is very buggy. 2 or 3 adapters works ok most of the time. With 4
or more it gets weird. All devices are seen, but randomly (at least it
appears to be random) reading sensors data fails with "Invalid
Argument". (I'm not 100% sure regarding the given error, it a couple of 
months ago I last tried the multiple adapters suport.).

The only solution I've come up with is to start several owfs-instances
with -u1 -u2 etc and point them to separate directories and the symlink
the devices to one folder.

At the moment I only have live systems with 3 or more adapters online, 
systems that I do not want to mess with, but I can set up a system and 
get a more detailed report if anyone is interested.

Best regards
Erik Freiholtz

>
>
>
>     So the answer is - yes, OWFS has correct routing between lines? In
>     my opinion, multiple adapters on host 1 can work absolutely different:
>
>
> Routing is on several levels:
>
> Operating System
> --------------------------
> USB devices to operating system bus/device number. -- This seems to be 
> arbitrary, or at least hard to control. (reconnects assign a different 
> address, other USB activity influence the result, etc.)
>
> Modern DS9490R bus masters have a id chip (family code 81) which might 
> be used to uniquely identify them.
>
> The contents of each 1-wire bus has a set of unique IDs.
>
> I2C and serial masters have a consistent operating-system assigned 
> address that can be used.
>
> OWFS bus.x
> -------------------
> OWFS assigns "bus.0, bus.1 ..." in order to each bus master it finds. 
> This depends on the command line sequence, and how libusb device 
> enumeration is given. So it can be inconsistent.
>
> Once a particular USB device is assigned a bus.x number, we try to 
> keep the same assignment based on the family code 81 device.
>
> So if you check the bus.x contents after startup, and select the 
> mapping you like, it should stay consistent for that run of OWFS.
>
> OWFS devices
> ----------------------
> Now routing of devices to bus activity.
>
> When a device is requested (/10.12345AB0000/temperature for example), 
> OWFS looks at an internal table to see if the device is known and 
> assigned to a particular bus. If so, only that bus is queried and 
> other activity on other buses can take place simultaneously 
> (multithreading). If the device isn't known, all the buses are queried 
> simultaneously for it's presence. The internal table has a timeout of 
> several minutes, but that can be tuned.
>
> You can also ask that only a particular bus is queried by requesting, 
> for example /bus.2/10.12345AB0000/temperature, but that requires you 
> keep an external table of assignments.
>  
>
>
>
>     1. Software use general BUS 0 (host 1) which is divided by BUS'es
>     0.1 (usb0) and 0.2 (usb1)
>
>     outputs from BUS 0 routed to BUS 0.1 0.2
>
>     inputs from BUS 0.1 routeed to BUS 0
>
>     inputs from BUS 0.2 routeed to BUS 0
>
>
>
>     2. BUS 0.1 and 0.2 are separete buses
>
>     outputs from BUS 0.1 routed to BUS 0.1
>
>     inputs from BUS 0.1 routed to BUS 0.1
>
>
>
>     Has OWFS any "routing tables"? How this can be implemented when
>     all usb connections are not permanent?
>
>
>
>     >USB has an issue with enumeration -- the same adapter will be
>     assigned a different slot. We try to search for the unique ID
>     (family code 81) when "reconnecting" but it's a fundemental
>     limitation of the operating system. Probably your code should
>     search through all adapters for known slaves and make assignments
>     dynamically.
>
>
>
>     Before polling the devices i have to mount owfs line, but to make
>     it correctly i need to know how are corresponding the usb ports
>     and 1W lines among themselves. Probably is necessary to make
>     mountpoint static:
>
>
>
>     1W-USB #1 -> /dev/usb#unknown -> /mnt/line#static1 -> line 1, set
>     virtually by adapter's unique ID
>
>
>
>     that seems to be really strange :/ Or you are talking about OWFS
>     build-in feature?
>
>
>
>     >Two adapters can be connected to the same 1-wire net as long as
>     only 1 is active. Can you poll and switch over? Again, I haven't
>     actually tried this.
>
>
>
>     I guess simple parallel connection should work well with software
>     "switch". Only one adapter per line is active. There is a modern
>     solution for adding gpio's, ADC and other devices to PC or
>     embedded device. Most of chips can be connected by i2c which is
>     supported by kernel. 1W PSU can be based on PCA9535, ADS7828,
>     DAC5571 or similar and connected with usb-i2c adapter to server,
>     such adapters are rather widespread and cheap. This gives me
>     powerful control of 1W lines. OWFS is good for long distances
>     (10-100m) where i can check integrity of 1W line by label at end
>     and use optocoupler. Device will stay in last mode until the power
>     is off. But remote controlled switch on 1W data line is unsecure.
>     If there is no possible software trouble with 2 adapters in
>     parallel i will use it. But i dont want to use 1W for PSU control
>     as well as 1W that depends on PSU. Therefore i think to make PSU
>     that is fully managed by kernel and partially by 1W.
>
>
> I think that most of the masters will ignore activity on the line if 
> they aren't in the middle of communication, besides an occasional 
> spurious presence pulse, which we ignore in owfs. So an inactive 2nd 
> master will not interfere (again, untested) as long as the default 
> master mode isn't shorting the line (which I doubt). When the first 
> master is taken down and the second activated, the bus will be in an 
> undefined state, and all the devices will need to be initialized. In 
> general that isn't an issue with 1-wire devices, except perhaps for 
> some of your PIO controls.
>  
>
>
>
>     What about correct wiring? Cat5 has 4 pairs, but most of
>     hobby-board and our Elin's company use only 2 of them.
>     http://www.elin.ru/1-Wire/Support/ (sorry for russian, but there
>     is lot of pdf's with schemes). May be OWFS support more clever
>     wiring than just one long bus with one adapter? Loop, 2 adapters
>     for 1 bus (by one at both ends) and so on. With 2 adapters i can
>     do software splitting of 1 bus when data bus fails.
>
>
> My impression is that the wiring is transparent to owfs. We really 
> don't see anything on the other side of the Bus Master, except throug 
> the master. If you can conceive of out-of-band control, I'd be happy 
> to consider adding it.
>
>
>
>     Thank you for great software! No failover for 4 years non-stop on
>     small HVAC:
>     http://crymos.ru/uploads/images/engineering/statistic.txt (current
>     statistic) Was working for 1 month even with dead HDD!
>
>
> Great to hear!
>
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