i think yes i didn't tested alias yet what i see is: a 'online' alias change, without restart owserver or umount/mount owfs
the second is let's think that one sensor was being used to read a bedroom temperature at bed, and another at floor but the floor was broken we could alias the bed temperature to floor temperature as a `temporary` solution this could be very nice :) 2011/3/31 Paul Alfille <paul.alfi...@gmail.com>: > One thing I didn't mention in the 2.8p8 release notes is that there is > a new "/settings/alias/list" that gives the sn=alias\n list. It should > be in format suitable for an alias file. > > Probably writing a "" (zero length string) would remove an alias and > writing an alias would add an alias. > > Are you sure we need multiple aliases for the same device? It adds > some complexity. > > Paul Alfille > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Roberto Spadim <robe...@spadim.com.br> wrote: >> same alias for 2 sensor is a problem >> 2 alias for 1 sensor isn't >> >> the problem of 2 alias for 1 sensor is syntax of alias file >> XX.XXXXXXXX = alias1 alias2 >> we should not have spaces, or another character to separate alias1 and 2 >> an idea is character / since it's a directory character not alowed to >> a file (owfs shouldn't use it), for example: >> XX.XXXXXXXX = alias1/alias2 >> >> maybe this work >> >> 2011/3/31 Cyril Lavier <clavier+owfs...@ltutech.com>: >>> Paul : I need to use some aliases because I wrote a little munin >>> plugin, and I think it's easier to have "CLIM 1", "CLIM 2", "FRONT BAY >>> 1", "FRONT BAY 2" than have the sensors IDs. >>> >>> Eloy : In my munin plugin, this is how I work, I have an %alias array >>> which I use for displaying the name, but also I don't want to edit the >>> plugin code everytime I add a sensor. Also, as I'm not the only System >>> Administrator in my company, I try to search for the easier way to add >>> an alias to a sensor. I thought about a kind of a configuration file >>> containing the aliases, but I wanted to search more on the 1-wire side >>> than on the plugin side. >>> >>> This is why I thought the alias file would contain the alias for the >>> sensor. And I only use alias for displaying the name, not for polling, >>> because in the case a person gives the same alias to 2 sensors, this >>> might lead to a bigger problem. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:58:30 -0300, Roberto Spadim >>> <robe...@spadim.com.br> wrote: >>>> i was thinking about it: >>>> only case when alias add/delete/rename is usefull is when add a new >>>> sensor or replacing a damaged or move a sensor from a bedroom to >>>> another >>>> >>>> maybe we need three commands: >>>> add = add alias to a sensor >>>> remove = remove alias from a sensor >>>> rename = change alias from a sensor (maybe add, and after delete, >>>> check that we need 2 or more alias per device) >>>> ideas -> maybe we can have 2 or more alias to same sensor, for >>>> example >>>> we remove a bedroom sensor (temperature) because another sensor give >>>> the same value (maybe near sensor in a test) with this we could >>>> rename >>>> alias without changing clients configuration (ownet or another >>>> client) >>>> >>>> i think it is >>>> maybe a alias_file in root of owfs is nice to reload many sensors in >>>> one write like: >>>> echo new_alias > ow_fs_root/alias_file >>>> >>>> or read all alias >>>> cat ow_fs_root/alias_file > today_alias_file_backup >>>> >>>> nice?! >>>> i don't know if we will have problems with writing to alias_files >>>> (maybe we will have 1MB file! could owserver network protocol support >>>> it?) >>>> >>>> that's all >>>> 2011/3/31 Paul Alfille <paul.alfi...@gmail.com>: >>>>> Interesting string. >>>>> >>>>> I was concerned about the security implications of allowing alias >>>>> writing. >>>>> Writing will rename objects and perhaps confuse data collection. >>>>> There >>>>> really isn't a permissions system in OWFS. >>>>> >>>>> I've seen several suggestion: >>>>> 1. Be able to write to the "alias" property of any device. >>>>> 2. Reload from a changed alias file. >>>>> 3. Have an explicit "reload" command. >>>>> >>>>> Can you explain the use case for changeable alias names? That would >>>>> help us design the system. >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Roberto Spadim >>>>> <robe...@spadim.com.br> wrote: >>>>>> maybe write the file >>>>>> >>>>>> cat /new_aliast > /fuse_owfs/alias_file >>>>>> >>>>>> this could insert a new alias file to owfs >>>>>> or >>>>>> >>>>>> cat /fuse_owfs/alias_file >>>>>> to read the today alias references >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/3/31 Roberto Spadim <robe...@spadim.com.br>: >>>>>>> if it don´t work for you, with not post a feature request? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> feature request: >>>>>>> add a option to reload alias file >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/3/31 Cyril LAVIER <clavier+owfs...@ltutech.com>: >>>>>>>> On 03/31/2011 05:43 PM, p4trykx wrote: >>>>>>>>> Dnia 31-03-2011 o 17:33:49 Cyril >>>>>>>>> LAVIER<clavier+owfs...@ltutech.com> >>>>>>>>> napisał(a):>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I type the same commands as previously. >>>>>>>>> The you are doing it wrong. The alias file is not writable!!! >>>>>>>> As far as I know, I never yelled at you... >>>>>>>>> Answer this: >>>>>>>>> Did you read the link I gave you? >>>>>>>>> http://owfs.org/index.php?page=aliases >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You have to run owfs/owerver like this >>>>>>>>> owfs -a myaliases.txt -d /dev/ttyS0 -m /mnt/1wire >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, I read it while I was searching for any clue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But this method doesn't convince me, as I don't want to restart >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> owserver everything I add a sensor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I will try to find another way to identify my sensors. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> p4trykx >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> Create and publish websites with WebMatrix >>>>>>>>> Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; >>>>>>>>> WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and >>>>>>>>> publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Owfs-developers mailing list >>>>>>>>> Owfs-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/owfs-developers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cyril LAVIER | Systems Administrator | LTU Technologies >>>>>>>> 132 Rue de Rivoli - 75001 Paris France >>>>>>>> (tel) +33 (0)1 53 43 01 71 | (mail) clav...@ltutech.com >>>>>>>> LTU technologies - Making Sense of Visual Content | >>>>>>>> www.LTUtech.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> Create and publish websites with WebMatrix >>>>>>>> Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; 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