Hi Roberto,

On 06/12/2012 09:21 PM, Roberto Spadim wrote:

> i don´t know if this exists but... in advantech and others rs485
> modules, exists a sincronous read mode, where you send a command to all
> slaves and they save the value into the memory
> after a time you can get all slave values

This can also be accomplished with the DS18B20 -- you send the Skip ROM 
command followed by the Convert T command. It's called simultaneous 
temperature conversion. I have never used it but I understand that OWFS 
supports it (the DS18B20s must be powered for this to work).

> for example in a ds18b20 you will need 1 second to convert temperature
> well... 1 second converting temperature in a network with 100 ds18b20
> still 1 second... the time you will spent later is getting 100 values
> from memory, this is faster than get 1 temperature from each ds18b20
> (100 seconds at least)
> i think it´s called sincronous ou parallel i didn´t tested it in owfs
> but i think it exists, must confirm with guys here

Yup, my understanding is that it exists and works. There is a 
"simultaneous" directory at the root of the OWFS, with elements inside 
it that I understand are to be used to make use of the "simultaneous 
temperature conversion" feature.

Cheers,

Eloy Paris.-

>
> 2012/6/12 Eloy Paris <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>
>     Hi Phil,
>
>     On 06/12/2012 08:36 PM, Phil White wrote:
>
>      > Hi All,
>      >
>      > This may, or may not, be applicable to this list. However, I am
>     hoping
>      > that someone here knows enough about MicroLAN to be able to clarify
>      > something for me.
>      >
>      > Up to know, all my sensors have been polled. Simplistically speaking,
>      > the PC asks "What is the temperature now?"
>      >
>      > What I am pondering is the ability for a sensor to suddenly, without
>      > any warning, say "Gosh! It's hot here".
>      >
>      > Now, some of the iButtons come with a feature called a Presence Pulse
>      > - although I am also interested in getting events via a DS2408
>     switch,
>      > and the DS18B20 comes with an alarm function.
>      >
>      > Questions:
>      >   Is this possible (preferable, but not necessarily, with OWFS)
>     without
>      > polling the chip all the time?
>      >   what are my options?
>
>     The 1-Wire protocol does not allow for slave-initiated communications;
>     everything is initiated by the master.
>
>     All 1-Wire devices have this "presence pulse" feature that you mention
>     -- that's a fundamental part of the protocol, and all slave devices need
>     to generate a presence pulse right after they detect a reset pulse
>     generated by the master.
>
>     I think the closest option to a non-polling solution is to use the alarm
>     function that some 1-Wire devices offer -- it still requires polling but
>     it can minimize it since only devices in an alarmed state would be
>     contacted. The way the alarm function works is that only devices that
>     are in an alarmed state will respond to a conditional search, so then
>     you would only read the sensors that show up in a conditional search.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Eloy Paris.-
>
>     
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