Hi Paul,
I have another one:
Elabnet (PBM01) -- 0403:6015 -- with UNIQUE product and manufacture ID
Sorry for the delay. I'm still negotiating a sample for your.
Thanks
Dirk
Am 23.09.2014 um 23:27 schrieb Paul Alfille:
> Ok, I did some testing of various USB 1-wire bus masters:
>
> LinkUSB -- 0403:6001 -- FTDI but no identifying charcteristics (Except
> serial number, but that's probably not consecutive)
> TAI603B -- 10c4:ea60 -- CP210x Unclear if it's generic or not
> USB9097 --1a86:7523 -- HL-340 Seems generic
> ECLO -- 0403:ea90 -- FTDI with UNIQUE product ID
> MasterHub -- 04d8:f897 -- MTI with UNIQUE product ID
> DS9490R -- 04fa:2490 -- Maxim with UNIQUE ID
>
> So it looks like only ECLO, the new Hobby Boards MasterHub, and the
> DS9490R can be auto-detected by USB scanning. I had high hopes for the
> LinkUSB, but perhaps I have an early version and the internal fields
> have changed.
>
> Paul Alfille
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Johan Ström <jo...@stromnet.se
> <mailto:jo...@stromnet.se>> wrote:
>
> I'm all for auto-detection, when it is possible to do so reliably.
> As you mentioned in the other reply, randomly poking at stuff is
> neither reliable or safe..
> So, the question is what we can do to make it as smooth for the
> user as possible..
>
> A possibly a new approach, with OS-specific resolving you mentioned:
>
> If user specifies --link /dev/ttyS0, -d /dev/ttyS0 or other, we
> could try OS-specific lookups to find what serial hardware it is
> using. For example, if we can find out that it is a FTDI based
> device, we could try to use ft_ftdi instead of ft_serial. If we
> cannot find out, we just fall back to regular TTY access.
>
> If user specifies --link 2:3, -d 3:4, --link usb:NNSERIAL or
> such, we look for that specific USB device. If it is a FTDI
> device, we use ft_ftdi. Else, we can either fail, or for
> device-types which are serial, we could try to reverse-lookup TTY
> using OS-specific approach.
>
> Note: on FreeBSD there are separate /dev permissions for accessing
> the TTY and the USB device. Not sure if Linux has the same.
>
> Or, a more intrusive approach, clean up all parameters and go a
> generic device-option: --device <type>[ <port-or-address>].
> Examples:
> --device link /dev/ttyS0 (would also possibly try to use OS
> specific resolving)
> --device link usb:3:4
> --device link usb:NNSERIAL
> --device ds9097 /dev/ttyS0
> --device ds9097 usb:3:4
> --device ds9097 usb:NNSERIAL
> --device ds9097u /dev/ttyS0
> --device i2c /dev/i2c-0
> --device masterhub /dev/ttyS0
> --device usb (this would search for DS9490R or
> PuceBaboon or any other USb which we can *reliably* identify)
>
> What would your optimal owfs usage model look like?
>
>
> For the record, here are the usbconfig --dump_device_desc data for
> my two FTDI devices:
>
> ugen1.3: <FT232R USB UART FTDI> at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL
> (12Mbps) pwr=ON (90mA)
> bLength = 0x0012
> bDescriptorType = 0x0001
> bcdUSB = 0x0200
> bDeviceClass = 0x0000
> bDeviceSubClass = 0x0000
> bDeviceProtocol = 0x0000
> bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0008
> idVendor = 0x0403
> idProduct = 0x6001
> bcdDevice = 0x0600
> iManufacturer = 0x0001 <FTDI>
> iProduct = 0x0002 <FT232R USB UART>
> iSerialNumber = 0x0003 <A9xxxxxD>
> bNumConfigurations = 0x0001
>
> ugen2.3: <USB FAST SERIAL ADAPTER FTDI> at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST
> spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON (44mA)
> bcdUSB = 0x0110
> bcdDevice = 0x0400
> iManufacturer = 0x0001 <FTDI>
> iProduct = 0x0002 <USB FAST SERIAL ADAPTER>
> iSerialNumber = 0x0003 <FTCDXXX>
> (skipped all other attributes which are identical)
>
>
>
> Johan
>
>
> On 9/22/14 18:23 , Paul Alfille wrote:
>> I notice in recent Linux (Fedora specifically) that USB devices
>> get pretty consistently listed by a reasonably consistent and
>> recognizable name in /dev/serial/by_id.
>>
>> I haven't looked to closely at all the USB fields yet, but some
>> devices have unique identifiers rather than the generic
>> USB/serial. I was hoping to scan for known patterns, apply any
>> optimizations, and then connect. The upcoming USB HobbyBoards hub
>> will have that.
>>
>> My dream is that owfs will be as "automatic" as possible.
>> Currently we can automatically scan for:
>> i2c
>> DS9490R
>> HA7Net
>> OWSERVER-ENET
>> w1
>>
>> Hardware serial will always be a problem, but some USB-serial
>> might be possible.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Johan Ström <jo...@stromnet.se
>> <mailto:jo...@stromnet.se>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 22/09/14 00:21, Robin Gilks wrote:
>> >> 1. Trying to resolve a serial port TTY name (i.e.
>> /dev/cuaU1 on FreeBSD)
>> >> to a potential USB device is probably doable, but not
>> without a lot of
>> >> effort and OS specific code.
>> >> I don't think it's worth trying to go down that road.
>> >>
>> > How about using udev on Linux (is there an equivalent on other
>> OSes?) that
>> > creates a symlink to a device node with a unique name from
>> the type (FTDI)
>> > and bus number and OWFS looks for that specific device name.
>> >
>> > Just an idea (had to do that years ago with serial devices
>> to sort out a
>> > connection to a weather station and an IR blaster, never
>> sure what device
>> > names each would come up with!).
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I have a similar setup myself, using FreeBSD's devd. It uses
>> my known,
>> hard-coded USB serials to set up a symlink from
>> /dev/cua-linkusb to
>> /dev/cuaXXX when device is detected, to easier find which tty
>> device I
>> should be using for what (I think I have ~4 serial ports on
>> my box)
>>
>> However, this doesn't solve the auto-deteciton problem, the
>> user still
>> needs to manually tell which USB device to be used, by
>> serial-no or
>> otherwise. And if that has to be done, it could just as well
>> be done
>> directly in owfs.
>>
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