If moving to a hosting platform attracts more developers and at the same time, lets us be a part of KDE I am totally in favor of the shift.
In that respect, I would suggest moving to github and use Jira as our bug tracking system 1. More people are comfortable with github (the UI) as compared to gitorious. 2. JIRA a bug tracking and project management system (also used by Tomahawk devs) is tightly integrated to github (https://plugins.atlassian.com/plugin/details/335252) Please do share your thoughts / comments. On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Robin Appelman <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree, moving back to gitorious while still being part of KDE will give us > the best of both worlds. > > On Wednesday 17 August 2011 11:56:25 Frank Karlitschek wrote: >> Hi, >> >> In the past few weeks we had some discussion in the ownCloud community about >> the relationship between ownCloud and KDE. Some of our core people raised >> the question if it is good for ownCloud to be a part of KDE or if it is >> holding us back. Some users from the outside might consider ownCloud the >> KDE only cloud solutions instead of a cross platform and cross desktop >> software. Other developers think that it is overly complicated for new >> contributors to use the KDE git infrastructure compared with independent >> ones like github or gitorious. Other developers said that it is not obvious >> to the outside that ownCloud is not using KDE libraries and people can >> contribute without being a KDE developer or user. >> >> After some discussion on the mailinglist, during our BoF session, on IRC and >> in person I want to summarize the arguments and suggest a solution. >> >> I think that KDE is a great community and a very welcoming place for >> developers. ownCloud is not a typical KDE project but we can benefit a lot >> from being a part of KDE. >> >> Being part of KDE >> - Infrastructure like wiki, mailinglists, bugtracker, .. >> - Friendly community >> - Organizational and financial support from KDE e.V. >> - Possibility to market ownCloud together with other KDE software. >> - We share the same goals >> >> >> Being independent from KDE >> - Better outreach to contributors outside KDE. (He had over 40 clones of >> ownCloud on gitorious but only a fraction on the current KDE git. We >> currently have external clones on gitorious and github. This shows that not >> every contributor is happy with developing at the KDE sever, but we don´t >> want to lose those developers, it´s easier to attract new php developers >> outside KDE) >> >> - We don´t profit a lot from the benefits of the central KDE repo like >> translations, buildsystem, SC releases and so on. >> >> - gitorious/github has a less steep learning curve. >> (I helped a few new developers to contribute to ownCloud lately and I agree >> that github and gitorious are significantly more straight forward for >> beginners) >> >> - Better workflow for web applications (transiflex, …) >> >> >> For me the solution is obvious. I want ownCloud to stay a KDE project >> because KDE is a great community with great people. ownCloud and KDE share >> the same goals als Stu described in his Desktop Summit keynote. But we >> should move our main git repository to gitorious again because this fit´s >> our needs better and we can attract more php developers more easily. There >> is also other KDE software which is hosted outside the main KDE repository >> and I don´t think it is a requirement for being part of KDE. This means >> that the KDE sysadmin won´t help us with the administration of the repos of >> course but I think we can handle it because we also did this in the past. >> >> I think this is a good solution, which combines the wishes of both groups. >> So I suggest moving the ownCloud repo back to gitorious.org/owncloud at the >> end of this month if no one objects. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Cheers >> Frank >> >> >> >> Frank Karlitschek >> [email protected] >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Owncloud mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud > _______________________________________________ > Owncloud mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud > -- regards, Kunal Ghosh _______________________________________________ Owncloud mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud
