The problem I see is that while you are underestimating the task of writing a proper collaborative editor. Did you look into libinfinity from Gobby at least, and perhaps the chance to revive their javascript implementation if *nothing* else?
Yes, I have seen the similar discussion come up about technologies, minimalism etc when I suggested a proper mail app in the OwnCloud - I think its a matter of preference. Sure, make things optional, but rather than reinventing things which are IMHO not trivial, I'd always opt for re-using the technology the giants before us wrote. Cheers, Mario On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 18:19, Florian Hülsmann <[email protected]> wrote: > > For realtime editing you could just use libredocs.org > Well, you can't be sure the data you send to the hosted backend is safe > there. This may be really important for companies using an ownCloud for > (collaborative) project work. > > > > As for the Realtime backend. That's not the goal. > Users should be able to have 100% control over the data, so it would be > awesome if the realtime backend _is_ integrated in ownCloud. > > But yeah, I know PHP is definitively _not_ made for Comet applications :( > > Have a nice day, > > Florian > > Am 04.04.2012 17:34, schrieb Michael Grosser: > >> For realtime editing you could just use libredocs.org >> <http://libredocs.org> (hosted node.js backend with some nice and >> >> developing capabilites) and use your owncloud storage as storage backend. >> Your data, minimal setup, great realtime editing etherpad style. >> As was already said, don't reinvent the wheel. >> >> As for the Realtime backend. That's not the goal. >> Owncloud should be the storage backend. The realtime communication >> should be separated from the storage. >> But you can take a closer look at remoteStorage.org for that. >> >> Michael >> >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Bartek Przybylski <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> W dniu 4 kwietnia 2012 17:14 użytkownik Nils Jansen >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> napisał: >> >> >> we dont want to introduce any new dependencies >> > >> > That would mean we dont want real time editing. We need some sort of >> > push capabilities on server side. Otherwise it would be very laggy >> to >> > do ajax-refreshs every second. >> >> We have OC_Eventsource for that, altho some tweaks inside its >> mechanism would be needed >> >> > >> > Nils >> > >> > Am 4. April 2012 15:17 schrieb Florian Hülsmann <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >> >> >> Hello Viraj, >> >> >> >> I'm deeply interested in your project :D >> >> >> >> Wouldn't it be possible to split it into a backend (the >> collaboration part) >> >> and a frontend (text editor), so other apps can also use the >> backend? I >> >> think of collaborative drawing with my SVG editor app (see >> >> http://ocsvg.cbix.de) and other cool stuff (real-time >> multiplayer games >> >> etc.)! >> >> >> >> Thanks, I wish you the very best for it! >> >> >> >> Florian >> >> >> >> Am 04.04.2012 11:49, schrieb Tom Needham: >> >>>> >> >>>> Personally I don't see the point of re-inventing everything >> under the >> >>>> sun. But >> >>>> whatever :) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> That is also true, however it is very important that owncloud >> runs on a >> >>> minimal server configuration and is easy for users to install. >> For this >> >>> reason I think it is acceptable to 'create' a collaborative >> editor for >> >>> owncloud. >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Tom >> >>> >> >>> Tom Needham >> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 4 Apr 2012, at 10:34, Mario Đanić <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>**>> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Personally I don't see the point of re-inventing everything >> under the >> >>>> sun. But >> >>>> whatever :) >> >>>> >> >>>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:15, Bartek Przybylski >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> W dniu 4 kwietnia 2012 11:09 użytkownik Mario Đanić >> >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>**>> >> napisał: >> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Better option would be to integrate Etherpad Lite, aka the new >> >>>> Etherpad. >> >>>> >> >>>> etherpad is written for node.js afaik, owncloud is php/js >> we dont want >> >>>> to introduce any new dependencies. >> >>>> >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Cheers, >> >>>> > Mario >> >>>> > >> >>>> > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 01:12, viraj sinha >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>**>> >> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> Hello Bartek, >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> I wish to be applying for Gsoc project titled "Collaboration >> >>>> rich text >> >>>> >> document editor" under owncloud and kde. I have made a draft >> >>>> proposal and >> >>>> >> need your valuable feedbacks. Please go through it and tell me >> >>>> about the >> >>>> >> changes that i need to make. The proposal is at- >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> https://docs.google.com/**document/d/**1uUeWetzJtn9P9Iu1MJwvJAQQiJDv9* >> *djxKcQkPItvaek/edit<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUeWetzJtn9P9Iu1MJwvJAQQiJDv9djxKcQkPItvaek/edit> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>> I'll check it today evening >> >>>> >> >>>> >> I would be obliged, if others could have a look, and let me >> know if >> >>>> >> there is anything that is missing, or something that I should >> >>>> elaborate >> >>>> >> upon. >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> Thanks a ton! :-) >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> -- >> >>>> >> Regards >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> Viraj Sinha >> >>>> >> Mitbuzz Developer >> >>>> >> Third Monkey Labs >> >>>> >> Dept of Comp Sc >> >>>> >> MIT,Manipal >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> >>>> >> Owncloud mailing list >> >>>> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/**listinfo/owncloud<https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >> >>>> Owncloud mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >>>> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/**listinfo/owncloud<https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >> >>> Owncloud mailing list >> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >>> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/**listinfo/owncloud<https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Florian Hülsmann >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> >> http://cbix.de >> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> >> Owncloud mailing list >> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/**listinfo/owncloud<https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud> >> > ______________________________**_________________ >> > Owncloud mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/**listinfo/owncloud<https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Owncloud mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/**listinfo/owncloud<https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Owncloud mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/**listinfo/owncloud<https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud> >> > > -- > Florian Hülsmann > <[email protected]> > http://cbix.de > ______________________________**_________________ > Owncloud mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/**listinfo/owncloud<https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud> >
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