On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Frank Karlitschek <[email protected]>wrote:
> I agree with Jan, > > user to user sharing, without the admin, is significantly cooler and more > useful for users then requiring that the admin "connects" the servers. > It would be very very cool if we could implement it like this. > > That's the way it'll be heading. We're discussing about API implementations which would enable a consistent REST api and API client as part of the sharing app. > webfinger is a great way to discover other users. The problem is that it > is not always available. It works only if you install ownCloud into the > webserver root and some users might also consider it a security hole and > switch it off. > So it would be great if the sharing system would also work without > webfinger. > Just without autocompletion obviously. > > > I´m not sure if "[email protected]" is the best syntax for a user > "frank" on owncloud "franksowncloud.org". Users will most likely confuse > this with an email address. > Perhaps we should try to find a different syntax for that. > > frank!franksowncloud.org/owncloudfolder or > (frank)franksowncloud.org/owncloudfolder or > frank=franksowncloud.org/owncloudfolder or > frank/franksowncloud.org/owncloudfolder or > frank%franksowncloud.org/owncloudfolder > > We can discuss about this. Still [email protected] makes most sense. > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > On 27.05.2012, at 17:24, Nils Jansen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > i agree. If [email protected] wants to share something with > > [email protected] he needs to know his webfinger. The already > > existing user/group form field for shareing files, folders, calendars & > > events should be able to handle these external webfingers. > > > > I think this would be most intuitive and least complicated on both devel > > and usability side. > > > > The "accept sharing offer" feature and notification should be > > implemented globally, not only for inter owncloud sharing, no? > > > > Looking forward to this feature very much, > > > > Nils > > > > Am 27.05.2012 11:26, schrieb Christophe M: > >> 2012/5/26 Michael Gapczynski <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> > >> On Saturday, May 26, 2012 07:50:45 PM Bartek Przybylski wrote: > >>>> I agree this is it how it should be done. Bartek would you like to > >>>> comment? > >>> > >>> Decision of binding owncloud instances only by admins was made for > >>> save resources and restrict access to information about instance. > >>> Binding between instances should allow instances to exchange > >>> information like userlist, groups etc. > >>> Obviously accessing sharing only by single user should also by > >>> available, but i dont remember did i point it out while proposal > >>> review. > >>> > >> > >> Relying on admins to bind instances is too much restriction on who > >> you can > >> share with. I don't understand how this method saves any resources. > >> > >> Exchanging the list of users and groups might be nice, but I don't > >> see why > >> this is necessary. The main use case I see for sharing between > >> instances is > >> for two individuals with their own independent instances. Sharing > >> with a group > >> or looking through the user list on a different instance sounds > really > >> strange. > >> > >> The best possible solution is to integrate sharing with the contacts > >> app and > >> allow the linking of a contact to a remote ownCloud instance user. > >> In the same > >> fashion as Jan-Christoph pointed out with [email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>. > >> > >>>> I noticed in your proposal that this is focusing on files. > >> Please note > >>>> that > >>>> I'm working on refactoring sharing to work with other app content. > >>>> > >>>> I'm starting to think that this project shouldn't be an app. I > >> strongly > >>>> believe this should be a REST API in the public namespace for > >> apps to > >>>> register specific actions with. We eventually need something so > >> files can > >>>> be shared, reverted to past versions, etc. from desktop and mobile > >>>> clients. Apps other than just sharing should be able to talk between > >>>> instances and have actions triggered by remote clients. Doing this > >>>> separate from interc-ownCloud sharing will just be duplicating work. > >>> > >>> Project beeing api instead of app, im not sure how that was mixed up. > >>> file sharing app was suppose to be example of api usage > >> > >> I don't understand what you mean. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Owncloud mailing list > >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi ! > >> > >> Well I think that there is two completely different use case : > >> > >> - Connect completely two OC instance to allow sharing between each users > >> of the two instance as if it was only one instance (the current proposal > >> with user list, ...). That one should be admin driven. May be used to > >> connect for example two enterprise .. > >> > >> - Simple user sharing between two user of different instance. Knowing > >> the user name and the domain of the remote user ('B'), 'A' can initiate > >> a sharing request with 'B' to share files with him without needing admin > >> permissions ('B' do you want to be my friend). You have to know the > >> other user. After the sharing request is accepted, 'A' and 'B' can share > >> files. 'B' will never appear in the sharing list of 'C' on the same > >> server as 'A' as the share link is between 'A' and 'B'. This scenario is > >> more for "social" sharing. > >> > >> > >> Christophe > >> > >> -- > >> ---------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Un poing levé, une main tendue > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Owncloud mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud > > > > -- > > Nils Jansen > > Hermannstraße 48, 2. HH > > 12049 Berlin > > tel +49 (0)30 28376529 > > fax +49 (0)30 8687048089 > > mob +49 (0)176 23553612 > > _______________________________________________ > > Owncloud mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud > > _______________________________________________ > Owncloud mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud > -- Regards, Deepak Mittal, Twitter - @dpacmittal
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