On 29.06.2012 21:18, Thomas Müller wrote:

Am Freitag, dem 29.06.2012 um 14:20 schrieb Frank Karlitschek:
Hi everybody,


the main problem our users mention about ownCloud is the number of bugs we 
have. I think we have to be more careful in the future about code quality if we 
want that more users use our software to manage their important documents and 
data.
We got a lot of bad press and feedback for ownCloud 4 and it took us several 
weeks to fix the major bugs in 4.0.4. We have to be way better in ownCloud 5.

Robin, Thomas and others are working on automated unit tests. This will help us 
a bit in the future.
But automated test have only a limited effectivity in complex client/server/web 
environments like ours.
So every developer is full responsible for the bugs and security problems a 
commit might introduce. You can´t rely on a unit test or a different developer 
or user to find and fix your stuff.


After building up the unit test suite to a necessary extend we shall start to 
think about going
into integration testing and maybe even think about behavior driven test cases 
built on top of e.g. selenium.
I read a bit about Selenium and I think that might help us a lot and it feels lightweight to me for what its providing. Have you set it up and used it in another project yet? I think we really should work towards using that midterm.

regards,

Klaas
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