I think it’s better to be honest and just not provide a feature if it’s not done good, rather than act like having it by providing an obviously non-integrated, inferior solution.
This is not about »making it perfect or not at all«, it’s about not doing what will clearly look like a bad hack to people and be a just-because-we-can solution. On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Michael Grosser <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Jan-Christoph Borchardt > <[email protected]> wrote: >> The alternative is then to just accept that Roundcube is a different >> app than ownCloud and use it separately. Not shoehorn it in. > yeah but with the iframe and 3rd party lib idea it's easier for the > user and less work for now. >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Michael Grosser >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I disagree a bit on this. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Jan-Christoph Borchardt >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Embedding other applications (like Roundcube) into ownCloud is just a >>>> really bad idea. It might be possible and easy enough, but the >>>> integration is just horrible. It’s just an iframed app essentially. >>> The thing is having other apps in an iframe or with a fullscreen >>> option (needed) we can keep on developing the solutions for problems >>> we find aren't solved yet in a good way instead of reinventing things, >>> which are quite alright for now. >>> First we should solve the real issues and if we are ready to tackle >>> the rest of the universe alright, but tackling the universe all at >>> once is just not the way I would like dev time spent. >>>> >>>> Rather we should focus on having these apps as base in ownCloud. >>> Later perhaps, for now integration would be enough. Having roundcube >>> with the addressbook from contacts, or integrate sharing files within >>> the mail stuff etc. many possibilities. >>>> Rather make it half but great, than make it complete but half-assed. >>> True but better use something and have something (even half) than try >>> to make everything perfect and end up with nothing. >>> >>> Just wanted to give another perspective. >>> Cheers Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Ken.Neiser <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I have watched a lot of emails over the last few days on this subject and >>>>> have noticed a lot of suggestions of embedding other applications >>>>> (roundCube) in to ownCloud. I think this is a good idea from the stand >>>>> point >>>>> of using ownCloud as a software delivery platform for other applications >>>>> (in >>>>> the future) as plug-ins and optional choice as required. >>>>> >>>>> However, give the above, it is extremely important that ownCloud has its' >>>>> own internal native supported applications (webmail) tuned for ownCloud >>>>> rather than having dependencies on other applications. The native >>>>> applications don't have to be fancy, just good enough to handle the "best >>>>> practive" functions a user would need. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Owncloud mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Owncloud mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud _______________________________________________ Owncloud mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud
