Hi,
i couldn`t agree more.
I am a owncloud observer since the early releases and i was trying
desperately to replace teamdrive with owncloud.
Unfortunately its not useable in a production environment at least in my
opinion.
Synchronising not to mention team collaborative work isn`t a scenario
owncloud can handle at the moment.
I really hope the devs can get there, oc is without a doubt very promising.
If i may give a modest advice its that you guys shouldn`t focus on new
features but instead make owncloud more stable
and focus on the reliable function of its core features.
Thank you for your effort.
Regards
Dennis
Am 08.11.2012 21:26, schrieb Philippe Froidevaux:
Hi,
I'll try to reply, because I also have a big issue here, too much
problems for a single bug repport :P
The documentation says : "First it is important to recall what syncing
is. Syncing tries to keep the files on both repositories the same.
That means if a file is added to one repository it is going to be
copied to the other repository. If a file is changed on one
repository, the change is propagated to the other repository. And
also, if a file is deleted on one side, it is deleted on the other. As
a matter of fact, in ownCloud syncing we do not have a typical
client/server system where the server is always master."
Thus in theory, it should works as you describe.
In practice, it won't. I have tried same simple use case and most of
them break (Note : I test mostly larges files, more than 200 Mb, but
let far enough time to complete a download - or a removing...). For
example :
- I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. But after
multiple client reboot, I saw multiple "conflict" files (the files
haven't changed at all)
- I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. If I remove
them on the client, they stay on the server.
- I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. If I remove
them on the server, they stay on the client.
- I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. On a second
client, they don't appear anywhere.
This, and some design choices, make the client almost unusable. It's
only ok to sync some file from a client to a server. But even for this
task :
- the client sync the file given the file's date, and ignore the file
hash. So it seems it will sync if just the date has changed
- the client sync/upload the file even if the file already exists
elsewhere on the server (a simple hash database would avoid this, and
use a copy instead of downloading/uploading a whole file)
- the client seems to scan the whole directory every x seconds, thus
take a lot of CPU/disc ressource. It's unusable if you have, for
example, 20'000 photos :D . Syncing only the changed files based of
access history would avoid this
Etc. etc. :D
It seems to me there is a lot of (re)design work to do here, before
having a Dropbox-like storage cloud. The OwnCloud client is NOT ready
for any serious usage for now. Even for just sharing files with
friends, the multiple "conflicts" files are quiet odd :p
<off-topic, judgement> OwnCloud is a very great tool, and very
promising. A lot of great job has been done. But it certainly need to
focus on stabilising the key features before adding new
funtionnalities. </offtopic>
Cheers,
Philippe
> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:43:59 +0100
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Owncloud] sync files with 2 sync clients
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm testing the last Sync client for windows with the last release of
> owncloud 4.5.1a, and I've got one question:
> The case is that I've got 2 laptops, and I want to sync the same
folders
> and files in the two laptops with the same owncloud account, it's
possible?
>
> Testing this case, if I upload one file to my owncloud folder
> "synclient" account with Laptop 1 then Laptop 2 don't sync this file
> (Laptop 2 don't download files uploaded with Laptop 1)
>
> Thanks and sorry for my english
> Congratulations for all your work, Owncloud works great!! ;-)
> Xavier
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