Hi,

i couldn`t agree more.
I am a owncloud observer since the early releases and i was trying desperately to replace teamdrive with owncloud. Unfortunately its not useable in a production environment at least in my opinion. Synchronising not to mention team collaborative work isn`t a scenario owncloud can handle at the moment.

I really hope the devs can get there, oc is without a doubt very promising.
If i may give a modest advice its that you guys shouldn`t focus on new features but instead make owncloud more stable
and focus on the reliable function of its core features.

Thank you for your effort.

Regards

Dennis

Am 08.11.2012 21:26, schrieb Philippe Froidevaux:
Hi,

I'll try to reply, because I also have a big issue here, too much problems for a single bug repport :P

The documentation says : "First it is important to recall what syncing is. Syncing tries to keep the files on both repositories the same. That means if a file is added to one repository it is going to be copied to the other repository. If a file is changed on one repository, the change is propagated to the other repository. And also, if a file is deleted on one side, it is deleted on the other. As a matter of fact, in ownCloud syncing we do not have a typical client/server system where the server is always master."

Thus in theory, it should works as you describe.

In practice, it won't. I have tried same simple use case and most of them break (Note : I test mostly larges files, more than 200 Mb, but let far enough time to complete a download - or a removing...). For example : - I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. But after multiple client reboot, I saw multiple "conflict" files (the files haven't changed at all) - I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. If I remove them on the client, they stay on the server. - I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. If I remove them on the server, they stay on the client. - I put some files on the client, they sync on the server. On a second client, they don't appear anywhere.

This, and some design choices, make the client almost unusable. It's only ok to sync some file from a client to a server. But even for this task : - the client sync the file given the file's date, and ignore the file hash. So it seems it will sync if just the date has changed - the client sync/upload the file even if the file already exists elsewhere on the server (a simple hash database would avoid this, and use a copy instead of downloading/uploading a whole file) - the client seems to scan the whole directory every x seconds, thus take a lot of CPU/disc ressource. It's unusable if you have, for example, 20'000 photos :D . Syncing only the changed files based of access history would avoid this

Etc. etc. :D

It seems to me there is a lot of (re)design work to do here, before having a Dropbox-like storage cloud. The OwnCloud client is NOT ready for any serious usage for now. Even for just sharing files with friends, the multiple "conflicts" files are quiet odd :p


<off-topic, judgement> OwnCloud is a very great tool, and very promising. A lot of great job has been done. But it certainly need to focus on stabilising the key features before adding new funtionnalities. </offtopic>


Cheers,
Philippe





> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:43:59 +0100
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Owncloud] sync files with 2 sync clients
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm testing the last Sync client for windows with the last release of
> owncloud 4.5.1a, and I've got one question:
> The case is that I've got 2 laptops, and I want to sync the same folders > and files in the two laptops with the same owncloud account, it's possible?
>
> Testing this case, if I upload one file to my owncloud folder
> "synclient" account with Laptop 1 then Laptop 2 don't sync this file
> (Laptop 2 don't download files uploaded with Laptop 1)
>
> Thanks and sorry for my english
> Congratulations for all your work, Owncloud works great!! ;-)
> Xavier
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