Just a thank you for all the work.

I think owncloud is doing well, but it needs to mature a bit more.
Mature in the department off releasing, documentation and so on.
If things settle down in the future there is more time to do more testing.

If users are getting angry it is not a good sign, but people need to test it first. Even debian quality software needs testing on a test machine or a test environment before you run an upgrade. running a upgrade over an installation without testing could get you in trouble.

Well we all learned something :D

gr
Johan







Victor Dubiniuk schreef:
Hi Günter,

I spent some time writing README. It is available in the app directory and on the github https://github.com/owncloud/apps/tree/master/updater
In short:
- If it is not possible to create a valid backup of the files the upgrade process won't proceed; - Database connection detail are stored inside *config.php*. It is not deleted on upgrade;
- All the files of the previous instance are stored inside your backup.;
- Many 3rdparty apps won't work with the new version anyway since they have maximal core version they are compatible with. So there is no reason to leave them, moreover it may cause various issues right after upgrade; - There are good chances not to have 3rd party apps compatible with X.Y.Z in the same day X.Y.Z is released; - I have a full-time job and family and I spend evenings upgrading different versions of numerous ownCloud instances in order to make the upgrade process smooth enough.

Please accept my apologies for all the inconveniences you had.

---
Victor

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Jan-Christoph Borchardt <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    How can this be fixed to not happen in the future? There should be an
    upgrade path for the config, and in the worst case just automatically
    a backup be made, right? Also the LDAP config needs to be preserved (I
    presume it should already, maybe that's a bug)?

    Can you please file these issues in the tracker at
    http://github.com/owncloud/core/issues -- that way we can not only
    help
    single people via the mailing list, but fix it for everyone. Thanks!



    On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM, chymian <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > Am 15.11.2012 13:48, schrieb Mark Ziegler:
    >> Am 15.11.2012 13:28, schrieb chymian:
    >>> propbably, there came a new config with the update, which
    destroyed
    >>> the old one. and the updater did not make any backup of the
    config file.
    >>> WTF!
    >>>
    >>> I'm not very happy with this!!!
    >> Who would be happy? But I am sure you made a backup before, so
    no need
    >> to be rude ;-)
    >
    > your right, I'm sorry about the WTF!
    >
    > but software, which destroys itself is not very nice either! and
    > produces a lot of work and debugging at the admin side.
    > and should definitely be marked as alpha-state!
    >
    > [rant on]
    > as I'm used to debian-state of quality, this is very unusual
    behavior.
    > but that seems to be normal with KDE!
    > sorry, I'm a bit pissed
    > [rant off]
    >
    > günter
    >>
    >> Mark
    >>
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